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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+ <I>Sat Mar 26 22:55:33 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 24.03.2011 22:27, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Summary (from <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy</A>):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not belong here. Not even closed-source stuff that we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> redistribute. So if there is at this time, that's something to fix.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Most of files in kernel-firmware (which is in core) are not OSI/FSF free
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (approximate list from 2010 [1]). There was a short thread about that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [2] where I asked the question if they should be moved to non-free due
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to them not being OSI/FSF free, and tmb agreed, while pterjan disagreed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (saying BSD without source code (where a portion of the firmware files
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in question fall) is eligible for core).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-01/msg00525.php">http://lists.mandriva.com/cooker/2010-01/msg00525.php</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [2] <A HREF="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110115/002172.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110115/002172.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah right, sorry for overlooking this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what do we do? amend core inclusion definition for that? or move
+</I>&gt;<i> these to nonfree? (and at what cost?)
+</I>
+I don't really have a strong preference here, as long as
+1) it is consistent, and
+2) users are happy (e.g. no situation where even the free radeon driver
+doesn't work with any ISO)
+
+&gt;<i> topic for next Council meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> to decide?
+</I>
+Probably.
+
+&gt;<i> would you like to write a summary for this in
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meeting:council_notes_2011_03_28#open_questions">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meeting:council_notes_2011_03_28#open_questions</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>
+OK, seems I was late, sorry. The summary looks good.
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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