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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 24 19:27:10 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, but the question is more , will we provide a &quot;non free&quot; dvd iso,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and this question is i think interesting.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It can't be &quot;free&quot; and have &quot;non-free&quot; firmware... previously the
+</I>&gt;<i> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
+</I>&gt;<i> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get discussed
+</I>&gt;<i> yet).
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+Whatever it's called, it doesn't make much practical sense to exclude
+important drivers from the dvd. Sure, ideological correctness could
+prevail, but I see no problem adding a non-free directory including only
+important drivers, such as video, wi-fi. Note that some distros are
+reported to put such drivers in their main free repository, which could
+also be done.
+Let's face it, one of the best ways to discourage new (Mageia) Linux
+users is to have an iso that doesn't work &quot;out of the box&quot;.
+Even experienced users/programmers find that frustrating -- how do you
+think that ordinary users will respond ?
+So I think that there should be an explicit policy to include, on all
+official isos, drivers for all (common) hardware. If there is no
+reliable &quot;free&quot; driver available, so include non-free.
+Whether such drivers are put in a non-free repository is another
+question. Personally I'd just put them in core until a reliable free
+driver becomes available, but that isn't critical to a working system.
+
+my 2 cents :)
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+--
+Andr&#233;
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