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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer</H1>
+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 24 17:31:50 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 24.03.2011 14:41, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/24 Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should rather stress the point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Note that the current Alpha2 ISO contains many non-free [1] firmware
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files, and without those e.g. many popular wired NICs do not work, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the 3D acceleration of ATI *free* driver depends on those.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1] Depending on the definition - some are BSD/similar but still without
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> source code, so considered non-free by OSI/FSF/Debian.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good point. In this discussion we were too vague about this.
+</I>&gt;<i> As I see this the discussion so far was about &quot;non-free&quot; software,
+</I>&gt;<i> where &quot;non-free&quot; meant the software in the non-free repos, not the
+</I>&gt;<i> strict definition of &quot;free&quot; by FSF.
+</I>&gt;<i> Prominent example (and trigger of this discussion): WiFi driver/firmware.
+</I>
+Well, currently the firmware are assigned between non-free and core at
+random (yes, we have non-free firmware in core, and yes, there are GPL
+firmware in non-free, etc), so...
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+Anssi Hannula
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