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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Fri Mar 18 08:05:45 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've had quite a lot of comments, proved or not, about base system
+</I>&gt;<i> size. Looks like it's growing much too fast. So one job for next beta
+</I>&gt;<i> would be to investigate on this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - check real size
+</I>&gt;<i> - check deps
+</I>&gt;<i> - check rpmsrate for isos
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Comments welcome
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>good question
+In principle, I think it should be something required by virtually any
+working Mageia system.
+
+I notice that there is a &quot;basesystem-minimal&quot; and a &quot;basesystem&quot;, which
+adds requires &quot;kernel&quot; and &quot;bootloader&quot; ?!
+(Both of which seem kind of essential ;) )
+
+We should probably drop the distinction. (They are in the same source
+task package anyway.)
+If we keep the distinction, we could make &quot;basesystem&quot; optional, and
+include not-absolutely-necessary-but-almost type packages. This would
+make it easier to reduce &quot;basesystem-minimal&quot; in size.
+(We could then maybe change the names to &quot;basesystem&quot; and
+&quot;basesystem-plus&quot; ? )
+
+At first glance, most of the requires seem pretty basic to any realistic
+minimal Linux system.
+The only thing I notice that is optional and somewhat big is vim (some
+20M), but some sort of editor is needed. And it is pretty standard in
+*nix type environments. (Not my favorite, but even I know how to use vim.)
+We could always find an alternative, but it has to function without X.
+
+We could save a lot of space without the bootloader and the kernel, but
+that would make it _really_ hard to get up and running :)
+
+In sum, it's not apparent how we could save much space.
+
+my (meandering) 2 cents :)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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