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But that doesn't solve the trademark usage issue, +</I>>>><i> actually. So the question is still open. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Romain +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> First of all, for a short period of time Mozilla seemed to require special +</I>>><i> permission to do _any_ redistribution based on Mozilla source code, a +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No, they required permissions only when using their trademark. The +</I>><i> source code is free software, and can be used without permission. +</I> +Ok. I should have added "without changing the name". But that seems to +have been a misunderstanding, anyway. + +>><i> situation which was a response to commercial sites grossly abusing Mozilla +</I>>><i> software, essentially defrauding end-users in the name of Mozilla. +</I>>><i> Subsequently they clarified their policy (but forgot to update their site +</I>>><i> for a while.) +</I>>><i> (The iceweavel project, created in reaction to this problem, died shortly +</I>>><i> after Mozilla clarified their policy.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The iceweavel project is still alive, and still used in Debian at the +</I>><i> moment, so it did not die shortly after Mozilla clarified their policy. +</I> +I was going by posts of a number of contributors to the project. So the +phoenix is alive ... :) + +><i> And Mozilla did not change their policy. What they changed is the license +</I>><i> of the logo, which was not available under a free license but is now +</I>><i> available under the MPL, GPL or LGPL license (but still protected by +</I>><i> trademark, which is different than copyright). +</I> +Which is the policy I was referring to ... + +>><i> According to their site, the clarified policy says essentially that +</I>>><i> as long as +</I>>><i> 1) we don't modify the source code (other than applying Mozilla-originated +</I>>><i> patches, which we can do by updating from their cvs), and +</I>>><i> 2) we don't charge for the code, +</I>>><i> we can redistribute Mozilla products using the name, trademarks and logos. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The "don't charge" is only for Unaltered Binaries distribution. +</I> +It is under the "unaltered binaries" heading, but includes compiled +unmodified source code, which need not contain the installer. +(A version without installer has always been available.) + +Since source code can be downloaded from Mozilla cvs, where patches are +available, much if not all code needed could come from directly from +Mozilla. +Thus meeting Mozilla trademark conditions, without requiring special +permission. +However it doesn't hurt to confirm ... + +>><i> As far as I know, Mandriva has never modified the source code, other than +</I>>><i> applying Mozilla security patches. And I don't see us at Mageia wanting to +</I>>><i> do so either. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As already said, our package includes some small patches : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/firefox/current/SOURCES/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/firefox/current/SOURCES/</A> +</I> +Ok. How much of that is not available directly from Mozilla ? + +Maybe we should get permission anyway, but I think it would be a good +idea to submit any patches upstream, and pull (especially security) +patches from Mozilla cvs. +(cvs will evidently be a lot more uptodate than releases - sometimes by +several months, as they finish more critical security fixes.) + +Then we won't have a problem being out of sync, with a lot more patches +to maintain. +Even if a patch comes from Fedora or elsewhere, we could still send it +upstream first. +This will affect Firefox a lot more than Seamonkey, which is usually a +step behind. (letting Firefox squash the bugs :) ) + +-- +André +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003416.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003405.html">[Mageia-dev] ANNOUNCE: x11-server 1.10 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3422">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3422">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3422">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3422">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |