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Although charging +</I>>>>><i> for it is generally permitted in unmodified open source licenses. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> So that mean that someone cannot ask money for selling a cdrom with it, +</I>>>><i> since it would be charging for the software. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> That's clearly a restriction of usage. So we need to rebrand it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Charging for the media is not charging for the software. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Reread again <A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A> : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "If you are using the Mozilla Mark(s) for the unaltered binaries you are +</I>><i> distributing, you may not charge for that product. By not charging, we +</I>><i> mean the Mozilla product must be without cost and its distribution +</I>><i> (whether by download or other media) may not be subject to a fee, or +</I>><i> tied to subscribing to or purchasing a service, or the collection of +</I>><i> personal information." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let me highlight a part of the quote +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "its distribution (whether by download or other media) may not be +</I>><i> subject to a fee" +</I> +And it is not. Anyone is free to download, without cost, from the +Mageia site, any software in the distribution, including all Mozilla +products offered. That some people (or even Mageia itself) may choose +to offer an iso, containing many packages, for a fee as an extra +service, does not in any way restrict users having no-cost access to the +Mozilla products distributed by Mageia. Mageia is offering the Mozilla +product without charge. +I would say that choosing to interpret that as a fee for a Mozilla +product is a very obtuse interpretation. +As well, there is no use of the Mozilla logo or trademark in this case, +only a package with the original Mozilla product name. + +><i> So I cannot distribute it by selling a CD, since this would subject the +</I>><i> distribution to a fee. +</I> +Only if the CD contained only (or primarily) Mozilla products would I +say that you would reason for concern. For an officiel Mageia iso, that +would be very far from the case. + +><i> The article of the FSF explicitly list this as a right for free software +</I>><i> users <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html</A> . +</I> +That is a provision of unmodified GPL, and not a requirement of all open +source licenses. In fact, even the FSF admits that not all open source +licenses have this provision. + +The FSF page + <<A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#SoftwareLicenses">http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#SoftwareLicenses</A>> +lists the Xinetd license + <<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/Xinetd_License">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/Xinetd_License</A>> +as a free software license which is not compatible with GPL. + +Why ? It cannot be redistributed for a fee. + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003406.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003417.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3415">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3415">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3415">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3415">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |