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Although charging +</I>><i> > > > for it is generally permitted in unmodified open source licenses. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > So that mean that someone cannot ask money for selling a cdrom with it, +</I>><i> > > since it would be charging for the software. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > That's clearly a restriction of usage. So we need to rebrand it. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > It seems this restriction only applies to "Unaltered Binaries" +</I>><i> > distribution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yup, but then for altered binaries, we just cannot use the brand, see +</I>><i> "modification" : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> "If you're taking full advantage of the open-source nature of Mozilla's +</I>><i> products and making significant functional changes, you may not +</I>><i> redistribute the fruits of your labor under any Mozilla trademark, +</I>><i> without Mozilla's prior written consent." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do understand their position, and I also know that they need to defend +</I>><i> their trademark ( as not doing would prevent them from defending later, +</I>><i> as some lawyer explained to me one day ), so I do not blame them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But if we wish to respect their policy ( and that's what we both wish ), +</I>><i> we will likely need to change the name, or to move it to tainted or +</I>><i> non-free ( because either trademark issues preventing distribution or +</I>><i> removal of a basic freedom would be a reason to do so ). +</I> +Or get permission to use their trademark with our modified version. I +think that's what most distributions do, and that they give permission +easily if modifications are small. + +I don't think protected trademark is a reason to move to non-free or +tainted, as software is still free software and can be modified without +asking permission if name is also changed. Other software we have in +core also have the same requirements. Apache is a registered trademark, +and can only be used by software from the apache foundation, so cannot +be forked without changing name : +<A HREF="http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/">http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/</A> +OpenJDK is also a trademark, that can be used only if "the vast majority +of the Software code is identical to the upstream Website Software" : +<A HREF="http://openjdk.java.net/legal/openjdk-trademark-notice.html">http://openjdk.java.net/legal/openjdk-trademark-notice.html</A> +Eclipse is also a registered trademark, and can only be used by eclipse +projects : +<A HREF="http://www.eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php">http://www.eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php</A> +And I think many other software names or logo are registered trademarks, +or have a license that require changing name when making important changes. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003410.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003409.html">[Mageia-dev] Chroot problem this evening +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3413">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3413">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3413">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3413">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |