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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] second impressions of mageia 1 alpha 2 (upgrade from MDV 2010 x86_64 PWP)</H1>
+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ <I>Fri Mar 18 01:55:13 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+first i noticed that 64bit iso is 3.8GB, while 32bit is more than 4GB.
+
+upgrading mdv 2010.1 x86_64 PWP with mageia 1 alpha 2 x86_64 DVD:
+
+- i noticed that the delay in text is still there during boot from DVD(#61)
+- in installer, i noticed that some of the blue rounding is gone now(#62)
+- ( what shall we do with #66 ? low priority? not valid? discuss more? )
+- I chose upgrade, and it almost immediately started upgrading.
+- I absolutely love the artwork during install: 1.5 thumbs up!
+- upgrade did tell me it would take more than 1hour, after a while it told me
+it would be more than 4 hours
+
+I remember from earlier mdv upgrades that upgrade from DVD always took a huge
+amount of time, so i haven't tried it since it was mandrake... at later
+times, i upgraded using urpmi sources and even later just by the applet. or
+sometimes did a fresh install.
+
+i noticed on my vbox3 that the disk and DVD gave 1sec activity and then 2sec
+nothing... so i suppose this could be more a CPU issue rather than a disk
+issue... (VM has 1cpu + 512 MB RAM)
+
+- after about 10% i see an error message:
+i tried to take screenshots of everything... but there was alot.
+
+* it started with conflicts of /usr/share/doc/HTML/kcontrol/ that was moved
+from kdebase to kderuntime or something
+* alot of X needed by Y stuff: from perl-base, x11, python, imagemagick
+
+it seems to (ironically) be bug #404 . the upgrade seems to stop and just move
+on to configuration...
+
+- the users step was skipped (seems normal) however, the item is still there?
+- the bootloader step was done
+- i don't know if it's a bug or not, but security level was marked as
+&quot;unconfigured&quot; in the configuration step.
+- i chose yes to updates
+- during update the small font is still there (#67)
+- it gave an error that &quot;aria2 failed(exited with 127): unable to access
+distribution medium (no media.cfg file found)&quot; with a text below: &quot;medium: ()&quot;
+(#426)
+- it then proceeded to show the screen to reboot
+- documentation asked to look on terminal to find out some stuff, but in my
+vbox, pressing Function keys with alt didn't do anything, and ctrl-alt
+switched me on the host, so i couldn't test that.
+
+so i rebooted.
+
+- rebooting showed me the old grub (text + graphic), but seemed to boot into
+mageia, (even after selecting mandriva).
+- black background in DM
+- logging in to KDE gives &quot;could not start kdeinit4. check your installation&quot;
+and a second window behind it, about changing names of folders. i was in a
+daring mood and clicked update names. and after that on the &quot;okay&quot; button from
+the kde error message. it got me back to kdm, so i clicked console login
+- seeing tty, i noticed it still said Mandriva linux
+- product.id + /etc/issue still unchanged
+- urpmq --list-url showed me that the DVD was still listed as medium, so i did
+the urpmi --auto-update
+- &quot;unable to access core media&quot; but it continued with message:
+- &quot;some requested packages cannot be installed: dblatex, gtk-doc&quot;, i said yes
+- &quot;the following will be removed: &quot; kmail, due to missing kio-* ; and some
+others like mdkonline and some python stuff., i said yes
+- then installing package step, 276 packages and 39MB will be freed., i said
+yes.
+- it said, please insert medium &quot;core media&quot;
+- i ejected it in vbox and put it back in, that did the trick
+- it tried to start and said i needed 86MB on / (out of disk space?)
+- i removed tetex (it seemed to take 200M on /usr/share/texmf) with urpme and
+it removed also 12 that depended on it dblatex and stuff
+- i redid the autoupdate, and it asked again to insert medium core media, but
+reinserting it didn't seem to work. also not inserting something else first.
+- failing that, i removed the core media and set up urpmi sources from online
+local media. alas it seemed aria2c didn't work due to libz and libxml versions
+missing...
+- specifying --wget option didn't help either, because my eth0 wasn't present,
+but renamed to eth1, which didn't have a config, of course.
+- after dhclient eth1 and shutting down firewall, and iptables service to
+accept, that worked.
+- it also showed the &quot;2\n2&quot; isn't numeric warning messages (#201)
+- i also had to add --no-md5sum (due to md5sum check failed)
+- i also got messages that it was unable to get pubkeys
+- urpmi --auto-update --wget gave warnings but seemed to work, only 2 packages
+were to be removed due to python &lt; 2.7
+- after it ran, it seemd to be only related to urpmi update, and so it
+restarted itself and asked me to remove libktorrent to proceed, i say yes
+- it then said 300+ extra MB for 1700+ packages, i say yes
+- it's halfway through installing atm, i'll go to sleep and tomorrow i'll
+continue this.
+
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+
+this was a cloned machine, so it can be retested at a later date. or in
+different ways.
+
+
+my conclusion:
+ - totally not ready for upgrade via DVD.
+ - DVD upgrade method seems very unstable to me and takes way too much time.
+ - I would propose to change the DVD upgrade method, that it just doesn't
+upgrade at all, except it installs a mgaupdate applet on the mandriva, then
+reboots into mandriva, but sort of does an applet-y upgrade there.
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