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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] HALectomy on mageia ?">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 17 maart 2011 04:32:17 schreef Tux99:
+&gt;<i> Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 17 March 2011 03:28
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 17 March 2011 04:08, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; You mean simply drop Gnome, Gimp, Gphoto, XFburn, Nut, etc. and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; probably
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; not being able to build some other apps that aren't in the Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; repos
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; yet and might require HAL?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First of all, where did mikala say anything about &quot;dropping right
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; now&quot;?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mikala? Why do you mention him?
+</I>
+Mikala is John Balcaen (original poster)
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; All the apps you picked (from the Fedora page?) can probably work
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; without hal, (e.g. I don't have haldaemon running for about 4-5 months
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; now, and gimp works OK).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I didn't pick anything, I simply listed the apps that appear as
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies in Balcaen John's first post of this thread and asked if he
+</I>&gt;<i> meant dropping those.
+</I>&gt;<i> See here if you missed the earlier emails:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&amp;th=2540">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&amp;th=2540</A>
+</I>
+afaik he meant to drop the hal option from compiling, ie: compile without hal
+support
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; The point is, other major distros have already gone through the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; halsectomy phase, which means we have very rich resources to draw on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> True, but again IMHO this is a major structural change, which AFAIK isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> supposed to happen until after Mageia 1 has been released.
+</I>
+I kind of agree with you, but i guess this is why it's proposed here. To see
+who supports it and who doesn't.
+
+personally, if this is as painless as mikala and ahmad think it is, i would
+feel it would be ok, if it was proposed a month ago. Now, i don't know, afaik
+there haven't been alot of distros yet released without hal atm. So even
+though alot of people are behind this, for mageia 1, we do have older versions
+of programs.
+
+I think they are wanting to see if someone can prove them that app X would be
+missing functionality if hal support was removed from now.
+
+but imho, it needs to be tested by non-dev users before something can be
+proclaimed.
+
+Also, i guess it means they don't want to keep supporting it. but imho, mageia
+release 1 isn't so far off anymore and there is still alot of work to be done
+for it. I do give my blessing to drop hal completely after release 1, though.
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