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Stormi do ( or seems to do ). And I think that given we +</I>><i> > > decided +</I>><i> > > to +</I>><i> > > split PLF for that precise reason, there is more than 2 of us +</I>><i> > > to care. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > > Putting tainted packages in nonfree just causes more +</I>><i> > > > confusion +</I>><i> > > > IMHO. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > As much as the reverse, it all depends on what you tell to +</I>><i> > > people +</I>><i> > > about +</I>><i> > > the repository, what they expect and what you prefer to +</I>><i> > > highlight. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > That's exactly why I suggested earlier in this thread that we need +</I>><i> > an +</I>><i> > additional repo for 'tainted+non-free' packages, that's the only +</I>><i> > solution +</I>><i> > that would satisfy every preference people might have and at the +</I>><i> > same time +</I>><i> > make things clear for everyone (packagers, mirror maintainers, +</I>><i> > users). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Instead of moving stuff in non-free, you move them in non-free + +</I>><i> tainted. +</I> +Nothing is being moved, these packages aren't in any repo yet. + +We are trying to decide what the best possible solution is. + +><i> That just bring more headaches, and more complexity. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's not a solution. +</I> +Sorry but your answer is not a proper argument, it only gives me the +impression that you are summarily dismissing anything that you personally +don't like and after dictating how things have to be done. + +Benefits of creating a separate 'tainted+non-free' as I mentioned in my +previous post: +- clear separation of packages based on free/no-free and tainted/no-tainted +status +- mirror maintainers can easily exclude tainted packages if the laws of +their country require it +- users can easily select packages according to their beliefs +(free/non-free) or legal concerns (patent issues) + +Also I thought that in the debate about whether to separate 'tainted' +packages that was held here on this ML in the early days, the main +argument was that it should be easy for users and mirror maintainers to +avoid packages with patent issues if they so wish. Your decision to put +'tainted+non-free' packages in 'non-free' completely undermines that, +therefore I don't consider it a reasonable solution. + +><i>From a packager point of view the best decision would be to put +</I>'tainted+non-free' packages in 'tainted' since they are most likely to +have dependencies in 'tainted'. + +If you don't want 'tainted+non-free' packages in 'tainted' then they might +as well go in a separate 'tainted+non-free' repository, since the added +complexity for the packager is the same regardless if they go in +'tainted+non-free' or 'non-free'. + +-- +Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3344">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3344">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3344">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3344">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |