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+Quote: jamagallon wrote on Thu, 10 March 2011 23:38
+
+&gt;<i> All desktops have their own 'standard' or 'official' media players.
+</I>&gt;<i> I will talk about gnome, you can translate it to kde, for which I have
+</I>&gt;<i> no idea of which will be the equivalents.
+</I>
+The 'offical' DE players are not necessarily the best choice.
+Often they are just an afterthought maintained by only few programmers
+without the same dedication as those people that maintain independent
+media players (like mplayer, vlc, xine).
+
+I have to say that vlc could be a good default choice as a video media
+player for Mageia (for all desktops), especially as it's well known in the
+Windows world too, so ideal for Linux newbies too.
+
+I also think it's best to have a default video player and a separate
+default audio player since IMHO there is no single player that is really
+good for both.
+
+My favourite audio player is Audacious.
+
+&gt;<i> I think nowadays the default official players are capable of playing
+</I>&gt;<i> the main formats everybody will use (XVid, DiVX, h264, mpeg, mp3 or
+</I>&gt;<i> ac3 audio, etc...).
+</I>
+It is very unlikely that Mageia will have all those codecs by default,
+since Mageia decided to only include codecs that are safe everywhere in
+the world.
+Personally I would have thought it would have been a great selling point
+for Mageia if it had included by default all codecs that are safe in
+France, taking advantage of the friendlier patent laws in Europe and
+therefore gained a competitive advantage compared to other US
+based/oriented distros.
+
+By the way aren't mpeg2 and ac3 covered by patents in the US too?
+I'm surprised these are included in Mageia.
+
+
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 &#224; 21:52 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 16:35:25 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 12:17:11, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:22:36 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for the purpose of testing package building locally;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - you're a careful packager and test out everything locally before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; submitting - you're a novice packager and want to practise
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; i would like to make a VM that acts like a buildnode, with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; following
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; requirements:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - mageia system (not mandriva)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - preferably headless
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - ssh on by default
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - building 32bit AND 64bit packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - using chroots to build and preferably having basesystem chroots
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; on it. also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cleans up so buildrequires are properly tested, and lint checking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and what else a buildnode normally does.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This can be done using iurt.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; so, how exactly does this work? iurt automagically build basesystem
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; chroots and chrootbuilds stuff? is there any task that is needed for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; this kind of thing?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Yes. See iurt package. And iurt config file used on the cluster :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/iurt.ca">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/iurt.ca</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ul dron.conf?revision=734&amp;view=markup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - no signing step
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - still as small as possible so it can be put somewhere for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; downloading. - nice to have is possibly a sort of local submission
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; tree so submitting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; could also be practised.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; You mean installing a full build system in a VM ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; You can try to do it using puppet, and the puppet modules on svn :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; well, i donno, i don't know puppet and this is not meant to be used in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; a controlled environment, but just built like this and people use it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; locally. there is not really any need to remote control this machine.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; just a one time setup.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The easiest way to setup a buildsystem is using puppet. Otherwise it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; will be more difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could someone from the sysadmins write (if it has not been done already) a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; quick guide for puppet use, for example &quot;how to deploy a buildnode using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; puppet&quot; ? I guess that would help Maarteen a lot :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would help Maarten a lot :-)
+</I>
+- install puppet
+- take the svn of admin
+ svn co <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/">svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/</A> /etc/puppet/
+
+and then something like :
+puppetd --test --tags buildnode
+
+( not sure about this )
+
+However, I do not recommend this, as I think what maarten want is to
+have iurt, not the whole scheduling system and upload system of the
+build system.
+
+&gt;<i> one extra question, if i use puppet to install it, it will be exactly like the
+</I>&gt;<i> current buildnode now?
+</I>
+Well our buildnode run on mandriva, your vm will likely be a mageia. So
+that's already a difference.
+
+&gt;<i> but is puppet then installed on it? because i don't want to give people the
+</I>&gt;<i> impression that if they install this vm, that the mageia sysadmins would have
+</I>&gt;<i> full control over their vm...
+</I>
+Well, if puppet is started and start to put our ssh keys as root, yes,
+we will have access to the vm, provided that 1) we have network access
+2) time to lose on this ( neither are credible possibility ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If nobody wants to do it I might consider it, but since it's quite a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> complex package I'd prefer if someone with more experience than me does
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it! :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunately the seamonkey name and logos are trademarked and the license
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> terms are most likely not acceptable so it seems to me we'll have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rename/rebrand it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is it different than firefox license terms ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same rules AFAIK, see
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+</I>
+So we may have the same problem with firefox and thunderbird ?
+
+Does anyone know if we had to request permission to use firefox and
+thunderbird trademarks ?
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 &#224; 00:28 +0100, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If nobody wants to do it I might consider it, but since it's quite a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; complex package I'd prefer if someone with more experience than me does
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it! :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Unfortunately the seamonkey name and logos are trademarked and the license
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; terms are most likely not acceptable so it seems to me we'll have to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; rename/rebrand it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is it different than firefox license terms ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Same rules AFAIK, see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we may have the same problem with firefox and thunderbird ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does anyone know if we had to request permission to use firefox and
+</I>&gt;<i> thunderbird trademarks ?
+</I>
+For mandriva, it was done IIRC, but I think that sharing a part of the
+building eased the dialog :)
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+<PRE>On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: Christiaan Welvaart wrote on Thu, 10 March 2011 23:26
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Unfortunately the seamonkey name and logos are trademarked and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; license
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; terms are most likely not acceptable so it seems to me we'll have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; rename/rebrand it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Is it different than firefox license terms ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Same rules AFAIK, see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see why we need to change the name. The policy says:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;If you compile Mozilla unmodified source code (including code and config
+</I>&gt;<i> files in the installer) and do not charge for it, you do not need
+</I>&gt;<i> additional permission from Mozilla to use the relevant Mozilla Mark(s) for
+</I>&gt;<i> your compiled version.&quot;
+</I>
+We are not using unmodified source code for firefox :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/firefox/current/SOURCES/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/firefox/current/SOURCES/</A>
+
+And it seems mandriva seamonkey package also has some patchs :
+<A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/seamonkey/current/SOURCES/">http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/seamonkey/current/SOURCES/</A>
+
+Also the &quot;do not charge for it&quot; would make it non free (but it does not
+seem to be mentioned in the &quot;Modifications&quot; section, only in the
+&quot;Unaltered Binaries&quot; section).
+
+So maybe we need to request permission, as explained in the
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+average users; also there's a good chance upstream will switch to
+phonon-vlc (or Mageia may switch to phonon-vlc when it stabilises
+more), so the best of both worlds :)
+(at such time it'll be easier to just add vlc main package as it won't
+add much space, and phonon*gstreamer* stuff won't have to be on the
+ISO, so the net weight should balance out...).
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+Also we should be thinking about the size of the Live ISO, putting
+vlc/mplayer/smplayer will bring more weight, and it'll be at the
+expense of some other useful packages that should exist on the ISO (we
+shouldn't forget users use the Live ISO as a test-run, demonstration
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 &#224; 23:38 +0100, JA Magall&#243;n a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:10:59 +0100, R&#233;mi Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rverschelde at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When you say &quot;media&quot; player, does it concern stricty video playing or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should the default media player be suitable for both video and audio?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Personally I like to keep these two separated, I feel that a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; specialised player will best fulfil its purpose than a multimedia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; player like Windows Media Player.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a note for all this discussion, it is just my point of view...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All desktops have their own 'standard' or 'official' media players.
+</I>&gt;<i> I will talk about gnome, you can translate it to kde, for which I have
+</I>&gt;<i> no idea of which will be the equivalents.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In Gnome, the official video player is totem, and the official
+</I>&gt;<i> backend is gstreamer. So both things should be installed by default
+</I>&gt;<i> and with all the codecs needed. if someone says 'I want support for
+</I>&gt;<i> XViD in the default Gnome install', well, you should install the needed
+</I>&gt;<i> gstreamer module. So everything should be supported by the standard
+</I>&gt;<i> official player.
+</I>
+In the case of gstreamer, there is packagekit and on demand installation
+of codecs.
+
+&gt;<i> After that, you can install other players, better if they fit the
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop. For example, after totem I would vote for gnome-mplayer,
+</I>&gt;<i> the Gnome front end for mplayer. And after that, other 'foreign'
+</I>&gt;<i> players like VLC or the like.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what would I put in distrib ISO ? totem and main bunch of
+</I>&gt;<i> gstreamer codecs, that carries no dicussion, and if there is still
+</I>&gt;<i> space, gnome-mplayer and mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suppose the same can be thought for KDE. Install whatever the
+</I>&gt;<i> default phonon-based player is, and if there is space, others.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think nowadays the default official players are capable of playing
+</I>&gt;<i> the main formats everybody will use (XVid, DiVX, h264, mpeg, mp3 or
+</I>&gt;<i> ac3 audio, etc...).
+</I>
+Well, yes, that's also our duty to others free software project to offer
+a cohesive and integrated system respecting their choice.
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+I'm a mandriva (2010.2) user for the time being . I just saw a missing
+packages list(<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=missing_packages">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=missing_packages</A>).
+And I have to say that I cannot stand the bugs in mandriva (2010.2).
+I can list some of them:
+1) scim-googlepinyin sometime( no , exactly often) failed to work .
+This is a bugs in googlepinyin input method(source code has problem) ,
+so it shouldn't include in the released distros ,but Mandriva do
+include .
+
+2) scim conflict with emacs23
+it's a very ,very BIG problem . emacs23 has a good support of mule and
+work well with scim in other distros such Debian . But in Mandriva
+users cannot use scim in emacs, which sucks!!
+
+3)qt creator cannot compile the source code .it's tricky that qt
+creator in mandriva often adds some verbose arguments to g++,which
+leads
+the compilation failed .
+
+4)python(2.x,3.x) doesn't shipped a GUI idle. Idle is the std IDE
+shipped with python interpreter . I know in the /usr dir(I'm not in my
+mandriva box,
+and cannot remmember the exact path ),there is a idle.py script. But
+since it's a GUI IDE, why not let someone can use it by mouse click?
+
+There are some other bugs with Mandriva. There are not so many people
+use Mandriva here ,maybe the majorities turn to Ubuntu .
+can I guess Mandriva users get lost ? And the package maintainers add
+the packages without much enough testing ?
+And I'm not reporting mandriva bugs to mageia . I just recommend that
+mageia cannot include the packages without serious consideration
+(from
+mandriva).As far as this aspect concerned ,Debian is a good example to learn.
+
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+<PRE>On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 12:17:11, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:22:36 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for the purpose of testing package building locally;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - you're a careful packager and test out everything locally before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; submitting - you're a novice packager and want to practise
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; i would like to make a VM that acts like a buildnode, with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; following
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; requirements:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - mageia system (not mandriva)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - preferably headless
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - ssh on by default
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - building 32bit AND 64bit packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - using chroots to build and preferably having basesystem chroots on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it. also
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cleans up so buildrequires are properly tested, and lint checking and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; what else a buildnode normally does.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; This can be done using iurt.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; so, how exactly does this work? iurt automagically build basesystem
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; chroots and chrootbuilds stuff? is there any task that is needed for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; this kind of thing?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes. See iurt package. And iurt config file used on the cluster :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/iurt.caul">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/buildsystem/templates/iurt.caul</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dron.conf?revision=734&amp;view=markup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - no signing step
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - still as small as possible so it can be put somewhere for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; downloading. - nice to have is possibly a sort of local submission
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; tree so submitting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; could also be practised.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; You mean installing a full build system in a VM ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; You can try to do it using puppet, and the puppet modules on svn :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; well, i donno, i don't know puppet and this is not meant to be used in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; controlled environment, but just built like this and people use it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; locally. there is not really any need to remote control this machine.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; just a one time setup.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The easiest way to setup a buildsystem is using puppet. Otherwise it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will be more difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could someone from the sysadmins write (if it has not been done already) a
+</I>&gt;<i> quick guide for puppet use, for example &quot;how to deploy a buildnode using
+</I>&gt;<i> puppet&quot; ? I guess that would help Maarteen a lot :)
+</I>
+You will need to checkout the /puppet/modules directory.
+
+Then look at /puppet/manifests/nodes.pp (and the other .pp files from
+that directory) and use it as an example to create your own puppet files
+which include only the modules you want.
+
+Then fix some bugs, because there will probably be problems, as I don't
+know if someone already tried this yet.
+
+So it requires to know puppet, and the build system, and spend some time
+to make it work.
+
+So this is not easy. I think it could be nice later to be able to
+provide something to install a buildsystem easily. But it's not yet done.
+And probably not what you want if you only want to rebuild some
+packages in a chroot, iurt is enough for this.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lyh19901223 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> hey all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm a mandriva (2010.2) user for the time being . I just saw a missing
+</I>&gt;<i> packages list(<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=missing_packages">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=missing_packages</A>).
+</I>&gt;<i> And I have to say that I cannot stand the bugs in mandriva (2010.2).
+</I>&gt;<i> I can list some of them:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) scim-googlepinyin &#160;sometime( no , exactly often) failed to work .
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a bugs in googlepinyin input method(source code has problem) ,
+</I>&gt;<i> so it shouldn't include in the released distros ,but Mandriva do
+</I>&gt;<i> include .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) scim conflict with emacs23
+</I>&gt;<i> it's a very ,very BIG problem . emacs23 has a good support of mule and
+</I>&gt;<i> work well with scim in other distros such Debian . But in Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> users cannot use scim in emacs, which sucks!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3)qt creator cannot compile the source code .it's tricky that qt
+</I>&gt;<i> creator in mandriva often adds some verbose arguments to g++,which
+</I>&gt;<i> leads
+</I>&gt;<i> the compilation failed .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4)python(2.x,3.x) doesn't shipped a GUI idle. Idle is the std IDE
+</I>&gt;<i> shipped with python interpreter . I know in the /usr dir(I'm not in my
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva box,
+</I>&gt;<i> and cannot remmember the exact path ),there is a idle.py script. &#160;But
+</I>&gt;<i> since it's a GUI IDE, why not let someone can use it by mouse click?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are some other bugs with Mandriva. There are not so many people
+</I>&gt;<i> use Mandriva here ,maybe the majorities &#160;turn to &#160;Ubuntu .
+</I>&gt;<i> can I guess Mandriva users get lost ? And the package maintainers add
+</I>&gt;<i> the packages without much enough testing ?
+</I>&gt;<i> And I'm not reporting mandriva bugs to mageia . I just recommend that
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia cannot &#160;include the packages without serious consideration
+</I>&gt;<i> (from
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva).As far as this aspect concerned ,Debian is a good example to learn.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> ________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> wolf python london(WPL)
+</I>&gt;<i> Do as you soul should do !
+</I>&gt;<i> ________________________
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+hi,
+
+our goal is to fix the most bugs as possible.
+
+What i can tell to you is to install mageia, and report us the bugs
+you see and we will try to fix them the quicker as possible.
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+&gt;<i> 4)python(2.x,3.x) doesn't shipped a GUI idle. Idle is the std IDE
+</I>&gt;<i> shipped with python interpreter . I know in the /usr dir(I'm not in my
+</I>&gt;<i> mandriva box,
+</I>&gt;<i> and cannot remmember the exact path ),there is a idle.py script. But
+</I>&gt;<i> since it's a GUI IDE, why not let someone can use it by mouse click?
+</I>
+That's not a bug, Idle is shipped in another rpm. I do not want to have
+a desktop file appearing when any python software is installed, as this
+will only confuse most users that do not care about crust, idle or stuff
+like that. Even I , as the python maintainer and a python developper, I
+never click on the icon ( nor use it ). Install tkinter-apps if you want
+it.
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 &#224; 17:41 +0100, xi a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I assume that you ( or tux99 ) are ready to test it, or better to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maintain it ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Because I do not have the hardware to test, do not plan to try to find
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it, and my time is quite limited. So I will not work on it if I cannot
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; check that it work, and if no one does the job, it doesn't happen by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; itself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same as Tux99 here: I have two old PIII PC with ISA sound cards, both
+</I>&gt;<i> running a mandriva 2008 for multimedia purposes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok to test, but I can't promise I will do that as fast as you would need...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Basically, I will test alpha2 ISO and report whether this package works
+</I>&gt;<i> or not. Is it ok for the Mageia &quot;schedule&quot;?
+</I>
+Well, as I said, I do not need it ( my own old P1 died some years ago ),
+you do.
+
+So the question is &quot;is this fast enough to have it shipped for stable
+release&quot;, and the answer is yes ( provided someone clean and import
+it ).
+
+Thanks for your futur help.
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+--
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+Quote: nicolas vigier wrote on Fri, 11 March 2011 00:39
+
+&gt;<i> So maybe we need to request permission, as explained in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Modifications&quot; section.
+</I>
+I think you are right and I think it might be rather urgent given that
+Firefox is already in on the mirrors and in the alpha1 isos.
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+I just downloaded the latest Seamonkey 2.0.12 SRPM from Mandriva cooker and
+rebuilt it on my Mageia VM and it built flawlessly, I only had to remove
+all the obsolete &quot;%if %mdkversion&quot; sections, but all dependecies are
+available in Mageia.
+So technically importing Seamonkey into Mageia seems straightforward, the
+only issue is licensing (as for Firefox).
+
+Christiaan I'm a newbie packager here at Mageia so personally I'd much
+prefer if you maintain this package for Mageia, it looks far too complex
+for me. :)
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+when we voted for packagers representatives, several people had issues
+with epoll and with mail being sent. It turn out that I found the
+problem by chance tonight and it was a conjunction of several problems :
+
+- our setup was ( and is still ) sub-optimally configured. We do check
+spam when receiving mail, and also when sending mail. While this could
+help the system by giving him normal mail ( ie ham ), this waste some
+ressources.
+
+- we have a quite strict antispam, ie the latest version of
+spamassassin, and we disabled nothing. There is a impressive range of
+plugins nowadays.
+
+For people that do not know the principle, spamassassin take the mail to
+look, check it against a huge corpus of rules and plugins, and assign a
+score for each. If the score cross a threshold, it is discarded ( or
+tagged ).
+
+It seems that some ballots sent with Anne email ( being <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail</A> ,
+the 1 is important ) triggered 3 checks :
+
+ NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2
+
+this one is related to DKIM ( a norm about cryptographic authentication,
+see wikipedia for details ). I guess it was badly configured on our
+side.
+
+ FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=2.223,
+
+SA detected that the From was using gmail, a popular free webmail, and
+that the email was finished by a number. And SA developpers think that
+statically sign of a spam ( based on a corpus of spam, see with them for
+the details ).
+
+ FREEMAIL_REPLY=2.499,
+
+This one is slightly more subtle. SA detected that From: header was a
+free webmail address, but that there was another email in body, and that
+email was also a free webmail ( if you read your spam, you may have seen
+this pattern : &quot;I am John, the CTO of this foreign company, I want to
+invest in your country, please answer me on
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">john at free_web_mail.example.org</A> &quot;, and that's what is detected right
+now ). Again, that's based on their stats.
+
+
+Total score : 4.924 ( there was a -1 as this was from a trusted ip, and
+some 0.001 )
+
+Score to be killed : 4.7
+
+Headshot.
+
+
+So that explain why people who were affected were those on gmail, yahoo
+or laposte.net, and while the one with their own domain ( me, boklm,
+etc ), were not affected. That doesn't explain why we didn't think to
+look at this however :/
+
+Sorry about that, now we established the problem was on our side.
+
+
+So, what is plan to prevent this for next time.
+First, we will make sure that people who use epoll :
+- are not scrubbed for spam ( but I tought I did it )
+- do not use a email that will trigger SA checks.
+
+
+A naive solution would be to lower the score on our server, but this
+will not solve the problem that the rest of the network will use a
+default spamassassin ( or a version with the same settings ), and so
+would likely refuse the spam on their side. So in the end, the result
+will likely just make us receive more spam.
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 2) @mageia.org lessens the personal spam problem, and looks more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> official as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>It doesn't lessen the problem, it move it to someone else ( ie, sysadmin
+</I>&gt;<i>team ).
+</I>
+But the sysadmin team will have to do this task already anyways (and might
+be better equipped to do it than someone receiving mail on their personal
+domain with non public addresses).
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+because of the alpha2 iso thread I was just looking at the available database
+servers in Mageia.
+Especially keeping my eye on postgres.
+
+At the moment, we have only one version of postgres: postgresql9.0-9.0.2. I
+would like to have at least posgresql8.4 as well for compatibility reasons.
+Even between minor version changes of postgres, there sometimes are changes in
+the database format or the syntax which force you to rewrite a lot of
+application code using postgres and dump your databases, update and restore
+them.
+Normally this is working nicely, but if you are using extensions to postgres
+like postgis and so on (which may or may not be packaged and thus be selve
+compiled), it can be a pain in the ass.
+
+I (as a padawan packager) feel not up to packaging something like postgres, so
+I would like to ask if someone else would?
+
+On a related item I would like to ask, if we are going to provide mariadb as
+an alternative for mysql.
+
+Oliver
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+&gt;<i> ahmad &lt;ahmad&gt; 1.1.0-2.mga1:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 67279
+</I>&gt;<i> - imported package wine-gecko
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+This one is 32bit only.
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 &#224; 21:52 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 16:35:25 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 12:17:11, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; The easiest way to setup a buildsystem is using puppet. Otherwise it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; will be more difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Could someone from the sysadmins write (if it has not been done
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; already) a quick guide for puppet use, for example &quot;how to deploy a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; buildnode using puppet&quot; ? I guess that would help Maarteen a lot :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It would help Maarten a lot :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - install puppet
+</I>&gt;<i> - take the svn of admin
+</I>&gt;<i> svn co <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/">svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/</A> /etc/puppet/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and then something like :
+</I>&gt;<i> puppetd --test --tags buildnode
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( not sure about this )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I do not recommend this, as I think what maarten want is to
+</I>&gt;<i> have iurt, not the whole scheduling system and upload system of the
+</I>&gt;<i> build system.
+</I>
+it would be a nice feature to have some kind of buildnode-alike for padawans
+to be able to try submission, but i think the benefits are very slim, not
+enough to warrant time spent on making that work, imho.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; one extra question, if i use puppet to install it, it will be exactly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; like the current buildnode now?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well our buildnode run on mandriva, your vm will likely be a mageia. So
+</I>&gt;<i> that's already a difference.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but is puppet then installed on it? because i don't want to give people
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the impression that if they install this vm, that the mageia sysadmins
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would have full control over their vm...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if puppet is started and start to put our ssh keys as root, yes,
+</I>&gt;<i> we will have access to the vm, provided that 1) we have network access
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) time to lose on this ( neither are credible possibility ).
+</I>
+True, but from security purposes, that's not a good idea. better would be at
+that moment to just remove puppet from VM, IMHO.
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+yeah, so i'm gonna see how far it get with iurt...
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 &#224; 00:28 +0100, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Unfortunately the seamonkey name and logos are trademarked and the license
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; terms are most likely not acceptable so it seems to me we'll have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; rename/rebrand it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is it different than firefox license terms ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Same rules AFAIK, see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; <A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+</I>
+Wasn''t there a license change regarding the Firefox logo in the end
+of 2010, that was related to this?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone know if we had to request permission to use firefox and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thunderbird trademarks ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For mandriva, it was done IIRC, but I think that sharing a part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> building eased the dialog :)
+</I>
+If needed, I can forward the request through the Mozilla Europe guys
+(across the street) who will certainly route us to the right people to
+ask.
+
+As far as I remember, having discussed about that with them in the
+past, there are two orthogonal product visions at stake here; so even
+in the long run, that will certainly be beneficial to work upstream to
+ease Firefox packaging and tuning on Linux platforms in general (and
+Mageia in particular).
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 00:35, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 &#224; 00:28 +0100, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Unfortunately the seamonkey name and logos are trademarked and the license
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; terms are most likely not acceptable so it seems to me we'll have to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; rename/rebrand it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Is it different than firefox license terms ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Same rules AFAIK, see
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &#160; <A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wasn''t there a license change regarding the Firefox logo in the end
+</I>&gt;<i> of 2010, that was related to this?
+</I>
+Yes :
+<A HREF="http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933">http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933</A>
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+<PRE>* Oliver Burger (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> because of the alpha2 iso thread I was just looking at the available database
+</I>&gt;<i> servers in Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> Especially keeping my eye on postgres.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment, we have only one version of postgres: postgresql9.0-9.0.2. I
+</I>&gt;<i> would like to have at least posgresql8.4 as well for compatibility reasons.
+</I>&gt;<i> Even between minor version changes of postgres, there sometimes are changes in
+</I>&gt;<i> the database format or the syntax which force you to rewrite a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> application code using postgres and dump your databases, update and restore
+</I>&gt;<i> them.
+</I>&gt;<i> Normally this is working nicely, but if you are using extensions to postgres
+</I>&gt;<i> like postgis and so on (which may or may not be packaged and thus be selve
+</I>&gt;<i> compiled), it can be a pain in the ass.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I (as a padawan packager) feel not up to packaging something like postgres, so
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to ask if someone else would?
+</I>
+I'll do it ASAP.
+
+But you have to know I did the hardest part of the work
+in mandriva and now packaging postgresq is quite easy, including
+updating to minor version.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On a related item I would like to ask, if we are going to provide mariadb as
+</I>&gt;<i> an alternative for mysql.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>--
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+ <B>Cazzaniga Sandro</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+So, guys, Sorry for my bad choice, I would like you to keep my account
+alive because I come back (if you wish) in mageia adventure!
+
+My apologies to all the team and my thanks also.
+
+Cheers!
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Cazzaniga Sandro at 11/03/11 09:57 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, guys, Sorry for my bad choice, I would like you to keep my account
+</I>&gt;<i> alive because I come back (if you wish) in mageia adventure!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My apologies to all the team and my thanks also.
+</I>
+\o/
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+--
+
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+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+ PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 &#224; 09:33 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 11 maart 2011 00:27:48 schreef Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 &#224; 21:52 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 16:35:25 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 12:17:11, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The easiest way to setup a buildsystem is using puppet. Otherwise it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; will be more difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Could someone from the sysadmins write (if it has not been done
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; already) a quick guide for puppet use, for example &quot;how to deploy a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; buildnode using puppet&quot; ? I guess that would help Maarteen a lot :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It would help Maarten a lot :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - install puppet
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - take the svn of admin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; svn co <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/">svn://svn.mageia.org/adm/</A> /etc/puppet/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and then something like :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; puppetd --test --tags buildnode
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( not sure about this )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; However, I do not recommend this, as I think what maarten want is to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have iurt, not the whole scheduling system and upload system of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; build system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it would be a nice feature to have some kind of buildnode-alike for padawans
+</I>&gt;<i> to be able to try submission, but i think the benefits are very slim, not
+</I>&gt;<i> enough to warrant time spent on making that work, imho.
+</I>
+Instruction on how to replicate our build system would be nice. It would
+not be that hard to write, just :
+- install X vm
+- make them communicate for network, using proper name
+- install proper dns resolution
+- do a svn checkout in /etc/puppet
+- set up puppet ( some package to install, 3*X commands to type )
+- enjoy
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> yeah, so i'm gonna see how far it get with iurt...
+</I>
+Having a working out of the box package of iurt would be a killer
+feature. Fedora does offer mock for that, and that's quite handy.
+--
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+<PRE>On Friday 11 March 2011, Cazzaniga Sandro wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, guys, Sorry for my bad choice, I would like you to keep my account
+</I>&gt;<i> alive because I come back (if you wish) in mageia adventure!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My apologies to all the team and my thanks also.
+</I>
+Thank you!
+
+Not having any hard feelings about Mandriva, I still wish we could easily
+contribute to both distros (if not even more than these).
+
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wasn''t there a license change regarding the Firefox logo in the end
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of 2010, that was related to this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933">http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933</A>
+</I>
+Right, thanks. But that doesn't solve the trademark usage issue,
+actually. So the question is still open.
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+&gt;<i> Normally this is working nicely, but if you are using extensions to postgres
+</I>&gt;<i> like postgis and so on (which may or may not be packaged and thus be selve
+</I>&gt;<i> compiled), it can be a pain in the ass.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&quot;can be&quot; --&gt; &quot;usually is&quot;.
+
+I don't actually use postgre, but I have historically installed it to
+have it available as an option. Every time the packages update, there
+are conflicts that prevent seamless installation. IIRC this is due to
+the desire to keep old versions around, Unfortunately, the new and old
+packages usually have conflicts that prevent them being installed
+side-by-side. I'm not sure if the expectation is that users will delay
+the install of the new until they've dumped their databases using the
+old, and then manually uninstall the old, but this breaks seamless updates.
+
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 &#224; 12:58 +0200, P. Christeas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Friday 11 March 2011, Cazzaniga Sandro wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, guys, Sorry for my bad choice, I would like you to keep my account
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; alive because I come back (if you wish) in mageia adventure!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My apologies to all the team and my thanks also.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not having any hard feelings about Mandriva, I still wish we could easily
+</I>&gt;<i> contribute to both distros (if not even more than these).
+</I>
+It quite easy, just work upstream. Patchs to kde, kernel, gnom, perl
+will sooner or later land on distributions.
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+&gt;<i> Having a working out of the box package of iurt would be a killer
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+&gt;<i> On 11 March 2011 00:04, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ahmad &lt;ahmad&gt; 1.1.0-2.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 67279
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - imported package wine-gecko
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This one is 32bit only.
+</I>&gt;<i> However I was under the impression that newer versions work on x86_64 too
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i>From the spec, by Anssi:
+</I>&#8220;# We would need a mingw64 crosscompiler for a 64-bit binary.
+# NOTE: building this package as-is on x86_64 will build a 32-bit
+binary instead.
+ExclusiveArch: %ix86&#8221;
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+&gt;<i> It quite easy, just work upstream. Patchs to kde, kernel, gnom, perl
+</I>&gt;<i> will sooner or later land on distributions.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 &#224; 23:38 +0100, JA Magall&#243;n a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:10:59 +0100, R&#233;mi Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rverschelde at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; When you say &quot;media&quot; player, does it concern stricty video playing or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; should the default media player be suitable for both video and audio?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Personally I like to keep these two separated, I feel that a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; specialised player will best fulfil its purpose than a multimedia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; player like Windows Media Player.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just a note for all this discussion, it is just my point of view...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; All desktops have their own 'standard' or 'official' media players.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I will talk about gnome, you can translate it to kde, for which I have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; no idea of which will be the equivalents.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In Gnome, the official video player is totem, and the official
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; backend is gstreamer. So both things should be installed by default
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and with all the codecs needed. if someone says 'I want support for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; XViD in the default Gnome install', well, you should install the needed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gstreamer module. So everything should be supported by the standard
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; official player.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the case of gstreamer, there is packagekit and on demand installation
+</I>&gt;<i> of codecs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After that, you can install other players, better if they fit the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; desktop. For example, after totem I would vote for gnome-mplayer,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the Gnome front end for mplayer. And after that, other 'foreign'
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; players like VLC or the like.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So what would I put in distrib ISO ? totem and main bunch of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gstreamer codecs, that carries no dicussion, and if there is still
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; space, gnome-mplayer and mplayer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I suppose the same can be thought for KDE. Install whatever the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; default phonon-based player is, and if there is space, others.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think nowadays the default official players are capable of playing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the main formats everybody will use (XVid, DiVX, h264, mpeg, mp3 or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ac3 audio, etc...).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, yes, that's also our duty to others free software project to offer
+</I>&gt;<i> a cohesive and integrated system respecting their choice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok, so let&#8217;s drop firefox too, install epiphany and konqueror instead.
+(maybe those are already installed aside firefox ?)
+
+If we follow one way, let&#8217;s be consistent with that ;)
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+R&#233;my CLOUARD
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+some new ones specific for Mageia, The Source rpm can be found here:
+<A HREF="http://www.mediafire.com/file/u2nt619b6z6yai9/Mageia-Background-Project-2011-1.mga1.src.rpm">http://www.mediafire.com/file/u2nt619b6z6yai9/Mageia-Background-Project-2011-1.mga1.src.rpm</A>
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+RDA asked me to post it here so that a packager can have a look and do
+whats needed to get it imported, hopefully in time for alpha 2.
+
+The spec has stuff in it to build lots of other artwork stuff, so
+maybe it would be simpler to just replace the screensavers in
+mageia-theme with these ones?
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+Isos release is in progress. As stated during last packagers meeting
+please stop major updates on base packages to avoid breakages for
+isos.
+
+Cheers
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
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+</I>&gt;<i> Isos release is in progress. As stated during last packagers meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> please stop major updates on base packages to avoid breakages for
+</I>&gt;<i> isos.
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+When do you think the process is over... more or less?
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+&gt;&gt;<i> yeah, so i'm gonna see how far it get with iurt...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Having a working out of the box package of iurt would be a killer
+</I>&gt;<i> feature. Fedora does offer mock for that, and that's quite handy.
+</I>
+until you want to build packages for RHEL.
+RHN satellite doesn't export its packages as yum repositories.
+So you have to either play with mrepo or have a build machine per RHEL version,
+with subscriptions to every channel.
+Plus you've to wrote mock config file (not hard) in the former case.
+In the second case, you've to patch mock in order to use rhn plugin.
+
+On the other hand, iurt only needs an URL.
+We only have to add support for config files that would embed
+&quot;$RELEASE.$ARCH&quot; like URIs
+so that we use whatever mirrors are the best/are available.
+Sg like:
+/etc/iurt/mga-cauldaron.cfg:
+URI=<A HREF="http://api.mageia.org/...">http://api.mageia.org/...</A>
+ARCH=x86_64
+
+/etc/iurt/mdv-2011.cfg:
+URL=<A HREF="http://api.mandriva.com/distributions/basic.i586.list?product=Powerpack">http://api.mandriva.com/distributions/basic.i586.list?product=Powerpack</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork team is getting its hands on the bootstrap and installer
+</I>&gt;<i> processes; backgrounds/screensavers are incoming too; and it will need
+</I>&gt;<i> to do so on the graphic theme (ia ora so far).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For now, the team needs assistance from packagers/developers on these modules:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- drakx (installer - perl/gtk skills/interest needed)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- theme (bootstrap, hibernate, shutdown, backgrounds, screensavers -
+</I>&gt;<i> plymouth skills/interest needed)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to help to:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- better understand how graphics/animations are and can be used (and
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe, later, build quick mockup tools);
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- replace them;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- cleanup (remove obsolete stuff, maybe break these modules into
+</I>&gt;<i> smaller, more to-the-point ones);
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- document (help future artwork and dev people to get a better grasp
+</I>&gt;<i> on these modules).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not for alpha2 (although a quick overview would be welcome)
+</I>&gt;<i> but for beta1 (and later of course); work would start at once anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Volunteers? if you are, please join mageia-artwork@ and/or #mageia-artwork.
+</I>
+I can describe where/how to change drakx &amp; mcc artwork
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+&gt;<i> In data venerd&#236; 11 marzo 2011 18:05:39, Anne nicolas ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Isos release is in progress. As stated during last packagers meeting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please stop major updates on base packages to avoid breakages for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isos.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> \o/
+</I>&gt;<i> When do you think the process is over... more or less?
+</I>
+isos are planned for 15th so 14th evening the latest
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Angelo
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+&gt;<i> Just a check, Anne do you know if anything happened with the new
+</I>&gt;<i> screensavers that I posted earlier? Or was that too late to make it
+</I>&gt;<i> for alpha 2?
+</I>
+We will have a look and depending on space left on iso we may include it
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Donald.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> 2011/3/11 Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a check, Anne do you know if anything happened with the new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> screensavers that I posted earlier? Or was that too late to make it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for alpha 2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will have a look and depending on space left on iso we may include it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Donald.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok thanks, thats good to hear.
+
+Donald.
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 00:41:42, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> IMHO, we should stick with dragon, it's a &quot;simple&quot; player usable for
+</I>&gt;<i> average users; also there's a good chance upstream will switch to
+</I>&gt;<i> phonon-vlc (or Mageia may switch to phonon-vlc when it stabilises
+</I>&gt;<i> more), so the best of both worlds :)
+</I>
+A user does not want a player X or Y, we need only a player which works in
+any case without any trouble.
+
+The file association can call a different player if is it needed for a special
+file type.
+For example, VLC is better than dragon to play an iso image of a DVD.
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A user does not want a player X or Y, we need only a player which works in
+</I>&gt;<i> any case without any trouble.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Agreed. Part of the enjoyment of Linux is exploring the many, many
+options for any application.
+
+A novice will be happy with an app that &quot;just works&quot; and when he
+outgrows that, will seek a better app.
+
+So for default, go with &quot;just works&quot; for most media formats.
+
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 00:15:03 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:11 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 45<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003224.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003240.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003233.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003235.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003231.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003217.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003243.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003223.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="3223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003213.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003238.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003230.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003209.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003211.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003214.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003218.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003219.html">[Mageia-dev] Yet another list of missing packages
+</A><A NAME="3219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003222.html">[Mageia-dev] The solution of the epoll voting issue
+</A><A NAME="3222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003232.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003236.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003241.html">[Mageia-dev] Some new screensavers
+</A><A NAME="3241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003229.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003208.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003220.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003221.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003226.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003239.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003225.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003244.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003245.html">[Mageia-dev] artwork team, packager/dev assistance needed
+</A><A NAME="3245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003227.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003234.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003215.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>wolf python london
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003237.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003242.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003210.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003212.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003216.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003228.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:11 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:15 CET 2011</i>
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+ <ul>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 00:15:03 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:11 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 45<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003208.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003209.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003210.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003211.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003212.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003213.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003214.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003215.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>wolf python london
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003216.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003217.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003218.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003219.html">[Mageia-dev] Yet another list of missing packages
+</A><A NAME="3219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003220.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003221.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003222.html">[Mageia-dev] The solution of the epoll voting issue
+</A><A NAME="3222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003223.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="3223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003224.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003225.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003226.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003227.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003228.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003229.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003230.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003231.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003233.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003232.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003234.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003235.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003236.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003237.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003238.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003239.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003240.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003241.html">[Mageia-dev] Some new screensavers
+</A><A NAME="3241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003242.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003243.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003244.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003245.html">[Mageia-dev] artwork team, packager/dev assistance needed
+</A><A NAME="3245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:11 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:15 CET 2011</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>11 March 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 00:15:03 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:11 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 45<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003225.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003238.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003242.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003243.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003245.html">[Mageia-dev] artwork team, packager/dev assistance needed
+</A><A NAME="3245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003223.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="3223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003224.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003229.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003235.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003208.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003213.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003214.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003240.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003209.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003216.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003226.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003232.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003237.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003244.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003230.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003231.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003233.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003236.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003239.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003210.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003211.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003212.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003220.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003221.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003227.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003228.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003234.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003241.html">[Mageia-dev] Some new screensavers
+</A><A NAME="3241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003222.html">[Mageia-dev] The solution of the epoll voting issue
+</A><A NAME="3222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003215.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>wolf python london
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003217.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003218.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003219.html">[Mageia-dev] Yet another list of missing packages
+</A><A NAME="3219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:11 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:15 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <h1>11 March 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 00:15:03 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:11 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 45<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01299798903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003208.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299799668- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003209.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299799668-01299832390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003226.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299799668-01299832390-01299841214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003232.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299799668-01299832390-01299841214-01299848828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003237.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299799668-01299832390-01299841214-01299868354- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003244.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299799698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003210.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299799698-01299800118- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003211.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299799698-01299800118-01299835984- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003227.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299799698-01299800118-01299835984-01299837072- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003228.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299799698-01299800118-01299835984-01299837072-01299842140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003234.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299800387- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003212.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299800387-01299809211- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003220.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299800387-01299809211-01299813067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003221.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="3221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299800502- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003213.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299800502-01299882327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299800502-01299882327-01299883031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299800662- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003214.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299800662-01299858353- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003240.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player
+</A><A NAME="3240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299802359- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003215.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>wolf python london
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299802359-01299805577- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003217.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01299802359-01299806542- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003218.html">[Mageia-dev] Will mageia keep the bugs in Mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299803433- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003216.html">[Mageia-dev] help wanted for building a buildnode-in-a-VM
+</A><A NAME="3216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299806778- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003219.html">[Mageia-dev] Yet another list of missing packages
+</A><A NAME="3219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299815821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003222.html">[Mageia-dev] The solution of the epoll voting issue
+</A><A NAME="3222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299827645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003223.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="3223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299828621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003224.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299828621-01299837279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003229.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01299828621-01299844196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003235.html">[Mageia-dev] database servers
+</A><A NAME="3235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299829262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003225.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299829262-01299851518- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003238.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299837437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003230.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299837437-01299839645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003231.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01299837437-01299841115- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003233.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>P. Christeas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299837437-01299841115-01299846217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003236.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299837437-01299841115-01299846217-01299852792- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003239.html">[Mageia-dev] Keep my account alive, i'm coming back!
+</A><A NAME="3239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299863110- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003241.html">[Mageia-dev] Some new screensavers
+</A><A NAME="3241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299863139- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003242.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299863139-01299863851- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003243.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299863139-01299863851-01299873558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299863139-01299863851-01299873558-01299875362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299863139-01299863851-01299873558-01299875362-01299875470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299863139-01299863851-01299873558-01299875362-01299875470-01299875655- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299863139-01299863851-01299873558-01299875362-01299875470-01299875655-01299875856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 in progress
+</A><A NAME="3250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299868502- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003245.html">[Mageia-dev] artwork team, packager/dev assistance needed
+</A><A NAME="3245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:11 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Mar 11 23:37:15 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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