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URPM able to use +</I>>><i> rpm 4.4 & 4.6 api with rpm5, let's say rpm5compat.h or something). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Whatever you end up doing, don't be afraid of asking or trying to +</I>>><i> communicate on, the mutual benefits of collaboration are rather +</I>>><i> obvious. <;o) +</I>>><i> If not, sorry for imposing." +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This mail had no answer, so what, is this guy a kind of antichrist of +</I>>><i> rpm , talking with sugar words and trying to backstab you ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> And at least, If the question are asked over and over, why is there so +</I>>><i> few things in archives about it ? Sure every one knows mageia will not +</I>>><i> hurry to go to rpm5 tomorow, and so what ? If some are bored about +</I>>><i> some related questions, why not opening a FAQ that explain it, or that +</I>>><i> just point to the related archive/topic (which could be this one) ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Sorry but I hate people bashing when i don't understand it. So if +</I>>><i> there are personal anger, try to get over, or explain and communicate +</I>>><i> better. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> RJ +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How many times is Mageia going to say "thanks, but no thanks"? how +</I>Thanks, but no thanks to what exactly..? +I don't really think you'll find many posts supporting much evidence for +me really trying to push much more usually than actual advice, suggestions, +answers to questions and offers to help and interest in discuss details +on this list. +><i> many more bug reports/breakage does cooker have to suffer to make it +</I>><i> clear that Mageia doesn't want the same headache, in the near future +</I>><i> at all? +</I>Your lack of attention span is intriguing, even after Raphaël finds +and tries handfeed you the same things I've reiterated over and +over, you're still not able to grasp that I am *not* pushing any rpm5, +magic beans or dead babies on you and makes up this to be the +actual issue. + +><i> +</I>><i> Personally I don't want to see mageia-dev ML have the same +</I>><i> rpm5-main-water-pipe explode in it like what happened in cooker@, +</I>><i> suddenly rpm5 is the answer to everything, from Jeff Johnson's point +</I>><i> of view, well, good for you. :) +</I>Yeah, clueless and as little technical posts as possible are much more +preferred, the contributions by posts such as this one from you gives a +much nicer and healthy environment for everyone to be happy with. +It's called progress! :| + +><i> +</I>><i> You wanna know why people can't communicate better? see how long +</I>><i> proyvind's emails usually are. You didn't get bored? :) +</I>I don't think you'll find many other posts to mageia lists by me that's +very lengthy at all previously otherwise. And with the given length, +it works well +at exploiting the short attention span and lack of interest from many, +weeding out ignorant dumbshit and FUD from people I have no interest +in any input from to begin with.. +If too technical and of no interest to you, then simply don't read it and +we're both happy. If getting bored becomes a problem, go play on the +highway, I didn't have much interest in providing you with entertainment +to begin with.. + +You could've shown the curtousy of coming of as at least trying to pretend +not to come of as too obvious of a troll.. + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003134.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003144.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3143">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3143">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3143">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3143">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |