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We even did a conference on FOSDEM to explain the +whole process. + +If people want to do it fine, but without a clear proposal and people +working on doing stuff, nothing will happen. And we clearly told we have +more urgent things, like doing a first release, organizing, etc. + +><i> Seems it's not the first time, in this mail +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html</A> +</I>><i> he told "(if interested, I could help assist you on writing something +</I>><i> equivalent for compatibility wrapping similar to what I did in the +</I>><i> past with rpm4compat.h & rpm46compat.h to make ie. URPM able to use +</I>><i> rpm 4.4 & 4.6 api with rpm5, let's say rpm5compat.h or something). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Whatever you end up doing, don't be afraid of asking or trying to +</I>><i> communicate on, the mutual benefits of collaboration are rather +</I>><i> obvious. <;o) +</I>><i> If not, sorry for imposing." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This mail had no answer, so what, is this guy a kind of antichrist of +</I>><i> rpm , talking with sugar words and trying to backstab you ? +</I> +Using religious vocabulary and exaggeration is IMHO something you should +avoid. It doesn't help. + +><i> And at least, If the question are asked over and over, why is there so +</I>><i> few things in archives about it ? +</I> +I suspect that you do not correctly connect the dots. + +We have made quite clear in the roadmap, in our various communications, +in this ml, and elsewhere that no disruptive changes are planned for the +first release. This mean no systemd by default, no python change to +python 3, likely no gnome shell by default, no lvm by default, no +rolling release, etc, etc. + +And this also includes no disruptive changes in a area like the package +manager if we can avoid it. + +><i> Sure every one knows mageia will not +</I>><i> hurry to go to rpm5 tomorrow, and so what ? If some are bored about +</I>><i> some related questions, why not opening a FAQ that explain it, or that +</I>><i> just point to the related archive/topic (which could be this one) ? +</I> +That's not really a FAQ when there is at most 3 persons who asked for it +( 2 being part of the upstream project ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003145.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003140.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3137">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3137">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3137">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3137">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |