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I certainly have a technical interest in it and personal +curiosity to satisfy. + +I'm even outlining that if the disussion took place somewhere else and if that's +why there's no reference to it, that's okay. At the same time I must admit +that I'm questioning whether these discussions that claimed to have taken +place on the mailing lists several times actually ever did so. With often a lot +of false criticism and FUD implying rather nonsense, I find it really +disappointing +and hard not noticing and pointing out, in addition to the given poor taste +implied behind such claims to begin with.. +I tried rather to get the actual information or at least hint at suggesting +avoiding to make up such false information to begin with if that were the +case without making it a really big issue. As you read it as something +totally different, I'd rather speak my mind about something I otherwise intended +to stear clear of.. + +><i> here/etc etc. +</I>><i> It's just boring... +</I>Well, given how my attempt at dismissing a situation that I find as +unnecessarily silly tension obviously failed to begin with, I wouldn't be +surprised that me trailing off and writing endlessly trying to discuss +more technical matters again about a topic that's rather complex and +of little interest to really discuss to begin with, I'm not surprised. +I was none the less genuinly trying to raise some questions and awareness +of concerns about the topic brought up as it's something I have quite +great interest in and absolutely would like being able to discuss and +possibly helping eachother out on. + +For someone that seems to want work on and having seemingly similar +ambitions for similar goals, I'm just hoping for dmorgan to better +understand and find the technical details interesting enough to not +getting sidetracked by this crappy rivalry and extremely childish situation +that created by others and that I refuse to take any responsibility for +causing to begin with. +Most people with proper attention and focus on what they're +working on usually tends to be able to do so, so as said, not knowing +him, I'm genuinly hoping to be positively surprised. :) + +And I certainly don't expect nor even want to attract +the interest of other people beyond those with actual interest in and/or +insight to discuss it to begin with. Throwing buzz words back and forth, +while rehashing FUD isn't my idea of properly creating any constructive +discussion that I'd have any interest in.. + +At least I *try* to mostly stay focused on *what* I attempt to, while not +not being afraid to admit the nature of how I write it or personal bias, +in attempt to not getting distracted by it. +The standard response I've experienced on this list so far, with the +exception of like 3-4 people, has pretty much been being ignored, or +when I'm lucky like in this case, someone attacking me for all the things +I actually never ever said and even stressed to urge make clear that +I didn't mean to say either. + +At least it's somewhat of a progress with someone acknowleding the +pink elephant in the room, even if claiming for it to be a completely +unrelated rabid monkey for which I'm to blame for and not allowed +to ask any questions about.. + +So in a summarized conclusion (and as it otherwise probably would +be interpeted as something totally different): +* First, cut the crap (people in general), get past it, we got better +things to do. + +* Secondly, if you (dmorgan) really want to achieve the better things to do +that you mention, I'd be happy to discuss details concerning it and I don't +really care about the which fork nor version of whatever you prefer +nor even if you like wearing womens underwear, it's in the end just not really +that important at all, I'd still have the interest and would find it to be +potentially useful and think I'd still be able to provide and give some help +regardless. + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003153.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003147.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3135">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3135">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3135">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3135">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |