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+ <B>Dexter Morgan</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 2 March 2011 11:42, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the timeframe of this move ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( and I would not wait for nvidia/fglrx personnally ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would also not put in core/testing, as i doubt people use this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just upload to core/release directly, or say &quot;i upload and will put in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after 1 week&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;<i> Works OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> But I cannot upload to core/testing:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, what do I do?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As we had a version really near from 1.10 final, why not push directly
+into core/release ?
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+<PRE>On 3 March 2011 23:58, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> What is the timeframe of this move ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( and I would not wait for nvidia/fglrx personnally ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would also not put in core/testing, as i doubt people use this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just upload to core/release directly, or say &quot;i upload and will put in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> after 1 week&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;<i> Works OK.
+</I>
+(...)
+
+&gt;<i> x11-driver-input-mouse, x11-driver-input-keyboard,
+</I>&gt;<i> x11-driver-input-synaptics &amp; x11-driver-input-vmmouse have RCs
+</I>&gt;<i> that I'ven't yet tried to rebuild, waiting for the core/testing issue
+</I>&gt;<i> to be fixed first.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll look at nouveau later.
+</I>
+Just tested with a wacom tablet, wacom makes server segfault on
+initializing wacom driver;
+will investigate
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 2 March 2011 19:37, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 02 Mar 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 2 March 2011 12:01, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at zamiz.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; conversation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Indeed. it's annoying for filtering
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, no, thunderbird doesn't break the thread of a bug due to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this issue, as it doesn't use just the subject to group emails.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mail clients usually use &quot;In-Reply-To:&quot; or &quot;References:&quot; headers to
+</I>&gt;<i> thread mails. But it seems gmail is also using subjects for this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However according to this, text inside square brackets is ignored :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-change-or-add-words-to-the-subject-of-a-Gmail-email-and-keep-it-in-the-same-thread">http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-change-or-add-words-to-the-subject-of-a-Gmail-email-and-keep-it-in-the-same-thread</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if we add '[New]' instead of 'New:' in the subject, maybe this would fix
+</I>&gt;<i> the problem with gmail ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yeah, that works, dmorgan tested and it works, he's applied the changes.
+
+Thanks a bunch :)
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>On Thursday, March 03, 2011 07:43:11 am Tux99 wrote:
+&gt;<i> Quote: rdalverny wrote on Thu, 03 March 2011 15:27
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So that's already a significant difference from the previous
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; discussion...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not, I said that in the other thread too but obviously you never read
+</I>&gt;<i> my posts:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&amp;th=2367&amp;goto=7691">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&amp;th=2367&amp;goto=7691</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &amp;S=afd88a4d2231b75d6972d47e8e8c5742#msg_7691
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;If the majority of packagers prefer that we have an email address in the
+</I>&gt;<i> changelog then i can live with that, but I would much prefer if I could
+</I>&gt;<i> use a separate email address for that (ideally a mageia.org address, BTW
+</I>&gt;<i> are we getting those?), not the primary one in mageia-identity.&quot;
+</I>
+I would not like my e-mail affress to show, but a Mageia address would be OK
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+<PRE>Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> C. how about we make&lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which could use the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (this could also be a packagegroup. eg: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to maintainers of firefox, xulrunner, etc...) (this option might just be too
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> complex)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of managing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to have the changelog display something more unique than
+</I>&gt;<i> the group email address for ID purposes, but the email address for
+</I>&gt;<i> communication purposes ?
+</I>
+Exactly. The id part is to identify the person who did the changes. It
+could be the pseudo at Mageia or the real name. (Or even a fake name,
+as far as I'm concerned.)
+
+The email adresse is for contact for support, and I find the
+&lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org idea elegant as well.
+It is better for ensuring longterm communication than the email adresse
+of the person doing the changes, as they could be no longer involved, or
+have changed their email. If they are no longer involved, even
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pseudo at mageia.org</A> wouldn't be very useful for contacts.
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+&gt;<i> The points to decide here are:
+</I>&gt;<i> a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in
+</I>&gt;<i> changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project
+</I>&gt;<i> needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document
+</I>&gt;<i> authoring)
+</I>
+I'm not sure what you mean by &quot;providing&quot; here. Contributors should have
+@mageia.org addresses, and this address must be shown in RPM Changelogs
+and RPM Packager fields (as is done in Mandriva).
+
+&gt;<i> b) should a contributor provide a real name for the same goals? or is
+</I>&gt;<i> a fake name/alias ok, as long as there are people that do know/meet
+</I>&gt;<i> the person?
+</I>
+I'd prefer everyone provide a real or fake name instead of an alias, but
+I don't feel so strongly about this.
+
+&gt;<i> I won't comment on pros and cons below (not exclusive of others), but
+</I>&gt;<i> those were raised in the discussion before:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The pros (as in &quot;yes one should&quot;):
+</I>&gt;<i> - that is the common way used in MDV and other major distributions
+</I>&gt;<i> - (email or name) it identifies the author of a change to the project/code
+</I>&gt;<i> - (email) it helps identifying &amp; contacting directly someone in the
+</I>&gt;<i> project (peer review or any ad hoc matter)
+</I>&gt;<i> - (email &amp; name) it helps building confidence among contributors and
+</I>&gt;<i> from the outside
+</I>&gt;<i> - (name) it encourages people to adopt a consistent behaviour
+</I>&gt;<i> - (email &amp; name) it builds one's contributions list for
+</I>&gt;<i> future/outside reference
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The cons (as in &quot;no, one should be free not to&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i> - public email addresses get spammed
+</I>
+I don't consider this a big issue, the email addresses are readable from
+mailing lists etc. in any case.
+
+&gt;<i> - personal preferences to not reveal one's name
+</I>&gt;<i> - there are situations where anonymity is a requirement or &quot;nice to
+</I>&gt;<i> have&quot; (from a personal or corporate point of view)
+</I>&gt;<i> - it will encourage people to contact directly contributors instead
+</I>&gt;<i> of using other expected channels
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that one may use a fake name/identity anyway to stay anonymous
+</I>&gt;<i> (but unless one already has a network of trust within a group, she
+</I>&gt;<i> would not have a past public record to help building her new
+</I>&gt;<i> reputation).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is at stake is the accountability for each contributor, hence for
+</I>&gt;<i> the whole project. What will matter is what one does and how.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And again, let's have this point discussed in a cool, informative,
+</I>&gt;<i> constructive and efficient way, please.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> C. how about we make &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which could
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> use the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (in case of more) (this could also be a packagegroup. eg:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer to maintainers of firefox,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> xulrunner, etc...) (this option might just be too complex)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of managing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it depends, the nickname could still be kept; and we were talking about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> having multiple maintainers in the future?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Except that changelog is not for listing maintainers, but the persons who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> did some changes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but changelog is for committing, not submitting? isn't this a totally different
+</I>&gt;<i> thing?
+</I>
+I don't understand what you mean.
+
+Changelog is a log of changes made to the package.
+
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+Quote: Anssi Hannula wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 05:47
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 03.03.2011 16:00, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - public email addresses get spammed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't consider this a big issue, the email addresses are readable
+</I>&gt;<i> from
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing lists etc. in any case.
+</I>
+True but many people (including myself) use different email addresses for
+each purpose, which currently wouldn't be possible if the single email
+address in the mageia-identity db is used for everything. Therefore my
+suggestion would be:
+
+- assign every packager a &lt;uid&gt;@mageia.org forwarding address
+
+- add a second email address field in LDAP and populate it by default with
+the primary email address
+
+- use this second email address as forwarding address for &lt;uid&gt;@mageia.org
+
+- make the secondary email address field user editable in the
+mageia-identity web interface
+
+- use the @mageia.org address in the changelog and everywhere else, were
+packager emails are displayed pubblically
+
+Using @mageia.org addresses is also a much better way (than enforcing
+'real' display names) to create trust with users since it shows that the
+packager is an official mageia packager, rather than some third part
+contributor.
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+Forgot to add:
+the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be used for
+communication between mageia systems and the user, like bugtrack
+notifications, forum notifications, etc. It should not be displayed or
+made available to the public anywhere.
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+<PRE>On 4 March 2011 00:03, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What is the timeframe of this move ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( and I would not wait for nvidia/fglrx personnally ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I would also not put in core/testing, as i doubt people use this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just upload to core/release directly, or say &quot;i upload and will put in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> after 1 week&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Works OK.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But I cannot upload to core/testing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, what do I do?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As we had a version really near from 1.10 final, why not push directly
+</I>&gt;<i> into core/release ?
+</I>
+No, we are still on stable 1.9.x
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Works OK.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> x11-driver-input-mouse, x11-driver-input-keyboard,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> x11-driver-input-synaptics &amp; x11-driver-input-vmmouse have RCs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that I'ven't yet tried to rebuild, waiting for the core/testing issue
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to be fixed first.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll look at nouveau later.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just tested with a wacom tablet, wacom makes server segfault on
+</I>&gt;<i> initializing wacom driver;
+</I>&gt;<i> will investigate
+</I>
+OK it works fine once updated to xf86-input-wacom-0.10.11.tar.bz2
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+&gt;<i> I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;<i> Works OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> But I cannot upload to core/testing:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [x11-server]$ mgarepo submit --define section=core/testing
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitting x11-server at revision 63783
+</I>&gt;<i> URL: svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/x11-server">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/x11-server</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Implicit target: cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> No handlers could be found for logger &quot;mgarepo&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> error: command failed: ssh pkgsubmit.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/local/bin/submit_package -t cauldron --define
+</I>&gt;<i> sid=e0f6502c-dfb0-4e0e-9855-b1f7c0b0b1fe --define section=core/testing
+</I>&gt;<i> -r 63783 svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/x11-server">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/x11-server</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Failed to upload
+</I>&gt;<i> svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/x11-server:">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/x11-server:</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Executing perl -I/usr/share/mdv-youri-core/lib
+</I>&gt;<i> -I/usr/share/mdv-youri-submit/lib
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/mdv-youri-submit/bin/youri-submit --config
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/youri/submit-todo.conf --define user=tv --define
+</I>&gt;<i> sid=e0f6502c-dfb0-4e0e-9855-b1f7c0b0b1fe --define section=core/testing
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron /var/lib/schedbot/repsys/srpms/@63783:x11-server-1.10.0-1.mga1.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> (sudo_user tv)
+</I>&gt;<i> FATAL youri: unknown section core/testing for target cauldron for arch src
+</I>&gt;<i> Initializing repository
+</I>&gt;<i> A &#160; &#160;/var/lib/schedbot/repsys/tmp/tmpCukHuN/SOURCES-bin
+</I>
+mgarepo getsrpm isn't working too (using mgarepo-1.9.9-1.mga1):
+
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+<PRE>Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-03-04
+&gt;<i> Forgot to add:
+</I>&gt;<i> the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be
+</I>&gt;<i> used for communication between mageia systems and the user, like
+</I>&gt;<i> bugtrack notifications, forum notifications, etc. It should not be
+</I>&gt;<i> displayed or made available to the public anywhere.
+</I>Then we just kill all the efforts we made to have a single account for
+everything?
+I don't think so.
+
+After all: if you use an address in the mailing list, bugzilla etc. it
+is publicly displayed. So what's the matter of displaying the same
+adress in the changelog?
+
+I already said this before (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-</A>
+sysadm/2011-March/002991.html) but you aparently weren't interested.
+
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+Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 12:30
+----------------------------------------------------
+&gt;<i> Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-03-04
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Forgot to add:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; used for communication between mageia systems and the user, like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bugtrack notifications, forum notifications, etc. It should not be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; displayed or made available to the public anywhere.
+</I>&gt;<i> Then we just kill all the efforts we made to have a single account for
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> everything?
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think so.
+</I>
+I think you misunderstood me, I'm not talking about multiple accounts, just
+a second email address associated with the existing mageia account.
+
+&gt;<i> After all: if you use an address in the mailing list, bugzilla etc. it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is publicly displayed. So what's the matter of displaying the same
+</I>&gt;<i> adress in the changelog?
+</I>
+I don't use the same email address on the ML as in my Mageia account (like
+I said I use separate email addresses for each purpose). I don't think I'm
+the only one here using a separate email addr for the MLs.
+AFAIK on bugzilla addresses are not publically displayed (they are only
+visible for logged in users which in my experience is enough to avoid
+email harvesters).
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 12:30
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After all: if you use an address in the mailing list, bugzilla etc. it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is publicly displayed. So what's the matter of displaying the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adress in the changelog?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't use the same email address on the ML as in my Mageia account (like
+</I>&gt;<i> I said I use separate email addresses for each purpose).
+</I>
+Subscribing to lists hosted on Mageia is done with the mail address
+given in identity.mageia.org.
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+<PRE>Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-03-04
+&gt;<i> I think you misunderstood me, I'm not talking about multiple
+</I>&gt;<i> accounts, just a second email address associated with the existing
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia account.
+</I>You do on the old mailman lists, you won't on the new sympa lists
+because you use your identity login there.
+
+&gt;<i> I don't use the same email address on the ML as in my Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> account (like I said I use separate email addresses for each
+</I>&gt;<i> purpose). I don't think I'm the only one here using a separate
+</I>&gt;<i> email addr for the MLs.
+</I>Which is in my opinion is unneccessary and a bit unfriendly to your
+communication partners. I use the same mail address, the same nickname
+and the same real name everywhere so people have a chance of
+recognising me.
+
+&gt;<i> AFAIK on bugzilla addresses are not
+</I>&gt;<i> publically displayed (they are only visible for logged in users
+</I>&gt;<i> which in my experience is enough to avoid email harvesters).
+</I>As I said, I am using the same address all over the net and you can go
+searching for me, you will find my mail address arround. But when you
+(or your mail provider) is using a well configured spam filter, I don't
+see any problems with that.
+So where's the point in that? I f I have the spam coming threw the
+filter on one address or divided among different addresses, what's the
+matter?
+
+Oliver
+
+--
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+
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+substitute leader - web team
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+Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:13
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subscribing to lists hosted on Mageia is done with the mail address
+</I>&gt;<i> given in identity.mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok I see, I haven't subscribed to any of those yet so I didn't know that.
+But that's again IMHO not a good idea, we should be able to specify a
+separate email address for the MLs.
+
+1 user = 1 email address is a very simplistic assumption, especially among
+techies.
+
+so what will happen to the 'old' MLs?
+
+How will they be migrated to the new server, I assume we all have to
+manually resubscribe (I can't imagine automatic migration to work since
+not everyone has a mageia-identy account and email address might not
+match)?
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+Or will there be no migration?
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+Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:19
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which is in my opinion is unneccessary and a bit unfriendly to your
+</I>&gt;<i> communication partners. I use the same mail address, the same nickname
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and the same real name everywhere so people have a chance of
+</I>&gt;<i> recognising me.
+</I>
+And you can continue doing that, my suggestion doesn't force anyone to use
+multiple addresses, but if gives you the choice if you want to.
+Multiple email addresses is common practice and doesn't cause confusion at
+all since it has nothing to do with the name/nickname. It is in no way
+unfriendly to communication partners.
+
+
+&gt;<i> But when you (or your mail provider) is using a well configured spam
+</I>&gt;<i> filter,
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see any problems with that.
+</I>
+Spam filters (especially base on content) are not foolproof. There is
+areason why even yahoo and gmail allow you to linke multiple email
+addresses to your yahoo/gmail account. It is the most hassle free way to
+avoid spam and to know where the spam is coming from (i.e. which company
+you gave your email address to leaked it to spammers).
+
+If you are happy with one address then good for you, I'm not forcing you to
+change, but you shouldn't pretend like your way is the best way.
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+&gt;<i> And you can continue doing that, my suggestion doesn't force anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> to use multiple addresses, but if gives you the choice if you
+</I>&gt;<i> want to. Multiple email addresses is common practice
+</I>It is? Haven't met many people using that except on a private/work
+basis...
+But maybe I've not come arround as much as you and probably I'm not a
+techie or I would use that common practice...
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:13
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subscribing to lists hosted on Mageia is done with the mail address
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> given in identity.mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok I see, I haven't subscribed to any of those yet so I didn't know that.
+</I>&gt;<i> But that's again IMHO not a good idea, we should be able to specify a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate email address for the MLs.
+</I>
+Why? Don't you know how to use filters in your mail client? I guess you do know.
+I have an inbox for each mailing list, my mail client (actually google
+mail) stores each mail from all those lists in its own box.
+
+Of course everybody has his own way of working, I only wanted to show
+that you can have an ordered mail system without using different
+addresses in the same area of communication.
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+Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:36
+
+&gt;<i> Why? Don't you know how to use filters in your mail client? I guess you
+</I>&gt;<i> do know.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have an inbox for each mailing list, my mail client (actually google
+</I>&gt;<i> mail) stores each mail from all those lists in its own box.
+</I>
+It has got nothing to do with inbox sorting, it's to be able to easily
+change and block off one email address when it ends up on some spam list,
+without affecting anything else.
+
+I don't use yahoo (I have my own mail server) and I was doing this way
+before yahoo started offering it, but they have a good document describing
+the system, so I refer you to this link on yahoo for further details:
+<A HREF="http://help.yahoo.com/tutorials/mmail/mmail/mm_dispaddress1.html">http://help.yahoo.com/tutorials/mmail/mmail/mm_dispaddress1.html</A>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:36
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why? Don't you know how to use filters in your mail client? I guess you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do know.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have an inbox for each mailing list, my mail client (actually google
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mail) stores each mail from all those lists in its own box.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It has got nothing to do with inbox sorting, it's to be able to easily
+</I>&gt;<i> change and block off one email address when it ends up on some spam list,
+</I>&gt;<i> without affecting anything else.
+</I>
+My experience of the last 3 years shows that the spam I get is very low.
+Spam escaping Google's spam filter is around 3-4 per week.
+Spam in Google's spam folder is between 15-25 per day, but that does
+not bother me anyway.
+
+Also I would not change mail addresses just because of spam. For
+excessive spam I'd rather use other means like a good spam filter
+and/or a tar pit or whatever. I'm not used to let spammers rule my
+mail system.
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+<A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+
+Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+
+Cheers
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Doesn't LibreOffice have translations?
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doesn't LibreOffice have translations?
+</I>
+Not build yet, should come soon
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 13:57
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+&gt;<i> My experience of the last 3 years shows that the spam I get is very
+</I>&gt;<i> low.
+</I>&gt;<i> Spam escaping Google's spam filter is around 3-4 per week.
+</I>&gt;<i> Spam in Google's spam folder is between 15-25 per day, but that does
+</I>&gt;<i> not bother me anyway.
+</I>
+Well if you are happy with that then that's great for you.
+Here are the stats of my mail server for a single week:
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+ 126 delivered
+ 0 forwarded
+ 4 deferred (7 deferrals)
+ 0 bounced
+ 51124 rejected (99%)
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+rejected is practically all spam and is a simple SMTP reject of blocked or
+non-existent email addresses, not content based spam filtering.
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+&gt;<i> Also I would not change mail addresses just because of spam.
+</I>
+Nobody is changing email addresses, read the yahoo link it's just
+variations of the same address, your basic address stays the same.
+
+&gt;<i> excessive spam I'd rather use other means like a good spam filter
+</I>&gt;<i> and/or a tar pit or whatever. I'm not used to let spammers rule my
+</I>&gt;<i> mail system.
+</I>
+Exactly, spam filters use up plenty cpu cycles (which is a problem when you
+run your own server), delay mails (when using greylisting) and therefore
+would rule the mail system as you say (not to mention having to deal with
+false positives or false negatives), using multiple addresses is dead easy
+and much less hassle once you understand the system and get used to it.
+
+I don't have a spam folder or spam filter at all, since I get maybe 1 or 2
+spam emails a week with this system.
+
+Anyway I have no intention of converting or convincing you of anything,
+just accept that there are other ways to deal with email that are equally
+good, that other people use.
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+ <B>Angelo Naselli</B>
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+<PRE>I am in favour, of &quot;should/would&quot;.
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+&gt;<i> The pros (as in &quot;yes one should&quot;):
+</I>&gt;<i> - that is the common way used in MDV and other major distributions
+</I>&gt;<i> - (email or name) it identifies the author of a change to the project/code
+</I>&gt;<i> - (email) it helps identifying &amp; contacting directly someone in the
+</I>&gt;<i> project (peer review or any ad hoc matter)
+</I>&gt;<i> - (email &amp; name) it helps building confidence among contributors and
+</I>&gt;<i> from the outside
+</I>&gt;<i> - (name) it encourages people to adopt a consistent behaviour
+</I>&gt;<i> - (email &amp; name) it builds one's contributions list for
+</I>&gt;<i> future/outside reference
+</I>Who wants to contribute, should be easily contacted, either by
+mageia community (bugzilla, other develeopers for fixing, suggestions for
+his/her packages,....) or by normal users. Last is not always good
+because personal mails are not always welcome and the risk some
+problems/discussions that remain private goes lost is high.
+I always strongly recomend people who contacts me to go on
+talking following the right ways (mailing list, bugzilla, etc), because
+there I'm not alone (and they as well).
+
+Different thing is for occasional contributions, they can decide if they want
+to be added or not, since they're not commiting anything, the maintainers
+can add or not contributors' information as they want.
+&gt;<i> The cons (as in &quot;no, one should be free not to&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i> - public email addresses get spammed
+</I>Yes, but a mageia alias, could be a partial solution. If one doesn't
+want to contribute any more, his/her real address is not known.
+
+&gt;<i> - personal preferences to not reveal one's name
+</I>Again are we talking about occasional contribution? if not i can't figure
+to go on irc and don't know who contacting for some issues...
+
+&gt;<i> - there are situations where anonymity is a requirement or &quot;nice to
+</I>&gt;<i> have&quot; (from a personal or corporate point of view)
+</I>For corporate, an alias could be accepted (if we're talking about a future
+mageia corporate) like kde-team or similar. But again for fixed contributions
+i can't get it, sorry.
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+&gt;<i> - it will encourage people to contact directly contributors instead
+</I>&gt;<i> of using other expected channels
+</I>As said we're talking about Open source community... Open not closed,
+so there's nothing wrong. The hope is there's no crazy criminals that
+wants to terminate anyone :)
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+In my personal experience i've been contacted a lot of time and answered
+when i could (my real life does not let me a lot of free time), and
+who contacted me has always understood that. Moreover if I could not
+have contacted some authors... well that is another story :)
+
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+<PRE>2011/3/4 Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well if you are happy with that then that's great for you.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are the stats of my mail server for a single week:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;122 &#160; received
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;126 &#160; delivered
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;0 &#160; forwarded
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;4 &#160; deferred &#160;(7 &#160;deferrals)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;0 &#160; bounced
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;51124 &#160; rejected (99%)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rejected is practically all spam and is a simple SMTP reject of blocked or
+</I>&gt;<i> non-existent email addresses, not content based spam filtering.
+</I>
+Well, you must have been to places :)
+Our mailserver (catering to @mandrivauser.de) does not show such
+figures. The percentage of our mailserver shows 56.16% accepted, 43.84
+rejected. Of these accepted mails our spam filter shows 20% spam
+(average). Accordingly the server does not waste recognizable power on
+the mail system.
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+Maybe with such a setup as yours and such results I may think about
+changing something, I'd not accept such a situation.
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+Anyhow, this is going too far away from the real issue of this thread
+and besides it is not really taking us somewhere at all.
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+<PRE>Le Friday 04 March 2011 10:21:08, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>Some packages should not be on the iso from my POV :
+akonadi-devel
+libacl-devel
+libalsa2-devel
+libenchant-devel
+libext2fs-devel
+libffmpeg-devel
+&amp; in a general way most of the -devel files (except thoses needed by dkms
+eventually for building kernel modules on the flight).
+Maybe they're included because a &#171; library &#187; is not @ the correct place so we
+need to fix it before alpha2.
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+Also kde 4.6.1 should be out very soon (probably today or tomorrow) should we
+wait before pushing it or we still have time ?
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+&gt;<i> Also kde 4.6.1 should be out very soon (probably today or tomorrow) should
+</I>&gt;<i> we wait before pushing it or we still have time ?
+</I>Hum in fact it's announced since 30 minutes :p
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
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+Can we assume this list also applies to x86_64 (with different names
+where necessary)?
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+<PRE>venerd&#236; 4 marzo 2011 alle 16:12, Balcaen John ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE 4.6.1 is on the way so please don't upgrade too fast :)
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+Are you going to build digikam and kipi 1.9.0 also?
+I can't until tonight.
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+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we assume this list also applies to x86_64 (with different names
+</I>&gt;<i> where necessary)?
+</I>
+Sure I always start on 32 bits and when content is finalized, I apply
+it to 64 bits iso
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+What about abiword, epdf, poedit, pidgin and audacity?
+
+Dan.
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+Hi there
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+I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+<A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
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+Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+packages and we will see how we can deal with it
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 4 mars 2011 14:21:08, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+</I>
+kmplayer is missing (was in alpha 1).
+dragon player, the default player don't works : white screen.
+kmplayer works rather well.
+vlc is fine.
+
+What should be the final player ? kmplayer, vlc, another one?
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+--
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+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org/">http://abul.org/</A>
+Microsoft est &#224; l'informatique ce que McDonald est &#224; la gastronomie.
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+Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+</I>
+Since I don't know what &quot;important&quot; means ;-), I just took a quick
+look at what applications I sometimes/often use on my desktop machine.
+Missing:
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+- a couple of plugins for claws-mail (claws-mail-rssyl-plugin,
+ claws-mail-notification-plugin)
+- pidgin and its various plugins
+- mercurial (I like to install the latest from source myself, but still)
+- audacious and its various plugins
+- tomboy
+- wireshark
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+Regards
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+Antoine.
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+&gt;<i> venerd&#236; 4 marzo 2011 alle 16:12, Balcaen John ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; KDE 4.6.1 is on the way so please don't upgrade too fast :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you going to build digikam and kipi 1.9.0 also?
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't until tonight.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yep, i was in fact waiting for 4.6.1 just to avoid a rebuild due to an
+eventually marble change. Both digikam &amp; kipi-plugins are waiting on svn for
+the moment.
+Maybe you can have a look on kipi-plugins spec :p i did some changes on it :D
+cf <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kipi-plugins/current/SPECS/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kipi-plugins/current/SPECS/</A>
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+<PRE>Le Friday 04 March 2011 12:24:39, Pierre Jarillon a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 4 mars 2011 14:21:08, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> kmplayer is missing (was in alpha 1).
+</I>&gt;<i> dragon player, the default player don't works : white screen.
+</I>It's certainly due to missing gstreamer plugins &amp; not to dragon player itself
+:<i>)
+</I>give a try for example to phonon-vlc backend :)
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+--
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+&gt;<i> Le Friday 04 March 2011 12:17:17, Angelo Naselli a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> venerd&#236; 4 marzo 2011 alle 16:12, Balcaen John ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; KDE 4.6.1 is on the way so please don't upgrade &#160;too fast :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are you going to build digikam and kipi 1.9.0 also?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can't until tonight.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, i was in fact waiting for 4.6.1 just to avoid a rebuild due to an
+</I>&gt;<i> eventually marble change. Both digikam &amp; kipi-plugins are waiting on svn for
+</I>&gt;<i> the moment.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you can have a look on kipi-plugins spec :p i did some changes on it :D
+</I>&gt;<i> cf <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kipi-plugins/current/SPECS/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kipi-plugins/current/SPECS/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Balcaen John
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+Any plans for adding digikam2, if not as default then for testing?
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Apart from pidgin (already pointed by others), there are always a couple
+tools I miss (both during install or on rescue mode, and in the final
+installed system): lsscsi and x86info.
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+I would suggest 'gqview', my favourite photo viewer and organizer.
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Any plans for adding digikam2, if not as default then for testing?
+</I>We should decide if or not. Fwiw Mandriva won't ship it but after
+2011 is out.
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+The big issue is that we have to patch kdegraphics
+to get new libkipi &amp; co.
+There should be nothing hard in it but are we sure
+gwenview and other kipi-host applications are
+rebuildable and working correctly?
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+We're in alpha phase so we can take the risk, but
+digikam 2.0.0 deadline is near ours.
+I'm open to discuss though...
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+<PRE>venerd&#236; 4 marzo 2011 alle 16:47, Balcaen John ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Le Friday 04 March 2011 12:17:17, Angelo Naselli a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; venerd&#236; 4 marzo 2011 alle 16:12, Balcaen John ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; KDE 4.6.1 is on the way so please don't upgrade too fast :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are you going to build digikam and kipi 1.9.0 also?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can't until tonight.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, i was in fact waiting for 4.6.1 just to avoid a rebuild due to an
+</I>&gt;<i> eventually marble change. Both digikam &amp; kipi-plugins are waiting on svn for
+</I>&gt;<i> the moment.
+</I>Thanks for all.
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+&gt;<i> Maybe you can have a look on kipi-plugins spec :p i did some changes on it :D
+</I>&gt;<i> cf <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kipi-plugins/current/SPECS/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kipi-plugins/current/SPECS/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> :)
+</I>As said i will :) but you know i need my time :)
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+&gt;<i> Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
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+</I>may I suggest a backup tool ?
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+&gt;<i> On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; C. how about we make &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; use the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (in case of more) (this could also be a packagegroup. eg:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer to maintainers of firefox,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; xulrunner, etc...) (this option might just be too complex)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of managing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; it depends, the nickname could still be kept; and we were talking about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; having multiple maintainers in the future?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Except that changelog is not for listing maintainers, but the persons
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; who did some changes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but changelog is for committing, not submitting? isn't this a totally
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; different thing?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't understand what you mean.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Changelog is a log of changes made to the package.
+</I>
+afaik changelog is compiled from svn commit messages? i don't really
+understand how the submit could have an effect on changelog?
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; C. how about we make &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; use the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (in case of more) (this could also be a packagegroup. eg:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer to maintainers of firefox,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; xulrunner, etc...) (this option might just be too complex)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of managing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; it depends, the nickname could still be kept; and we were talking about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; having multiple maintainers in the future?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Except that changelog is not for listing maintainers, but the persons
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; who did some changes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; but changelog is for committing, not submitting? isn't this a totally
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; different thing?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't understand what you mean.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Changelog is a log of changes made to the package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> afaik changelog is compiled from svn commit messages? i don't really
+</I>&gt;<i> understand how the submit could have an effect on changelog?
+</I>
+Who said submit has an effect on changelog ? Why are you talking about
+submit ?
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 16:20:24 schreef Dj Marian:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> What about abiword, epdf, poedit, pidgin and audacity?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dan.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>
+i use pidgin too
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+but i would also like a smaller iso, if possible
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 14:21:08 schreef Anne nicolas:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
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+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working on next isos for alpha2. Here is content I have for now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq">http://pastebin.com/ekj2HVLq</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please have a look an check what could be missing as important
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and we will see how we can deal with it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>
+it looks like a big iso again; could it be possible to also have a more
+minimal iso? or is that hard/alot of work?
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+in fact, most of the packages we could get later from the mirrors...
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+&gt;<i> Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> C. how about we make&lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which could use the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (this could also be a packagegroup. eg: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to maintainers of firefox, xulrunner, etc...) (this option might just be too
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> complex)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of managing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is it possible to have the changelog display something more unique than
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the group email address for ID purposes, but the email address for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> communication purposes ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Exactly. The id part is to identify the person who did the changes. It
+</I>&gt;<i> could be the pseudo at Mageia or the real name. (Or even a fake name, as
+</I>&gt;<i> far as I'm concerned.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The email adresse is for contact for support, and I find the
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org idea elegant as well.
+</I>
+The email address in the changelog is not a contact for support. It's
+the contact of the person who did the change. So for me it does not make
+sense to use something else than the email of the person who did the
+change, something like <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">login at mageia.org.</A>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:01:09 schreef nicolas vigier:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 05:50:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On 04.03.2011 00:51, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; C. how about we make &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; could use the maintainers database to forward the email to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; maintainers (in case of more) (this could also be a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; packagegroup. eg: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; maintainers of firefox, xulrunner, etc...) (this option might
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; just be too complex)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; managing the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; it depends, the nickname could still be kept; and we were talking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; about having multiple maintainers in the future?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Except that changelog is not for listing maintainers, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; persons who did some changes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; but changelog is for committing, not submitting? isn't this a totally
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; different thing?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I don't understand what you mean.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Changelog is a log of changes made to the package.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; afaik changelog is compiled from svn commit messages? i don't really
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; understand how the submit could have an effect on changelog?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Who said submit has an effect on changelog ? Why are you talking about
+</I>&gt;<i> submit ?
+</I>
+
+to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i
+clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the first
+place, cause it doesn't seem to make any sense...
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+Quote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 15:49
+
+&gt;<i> Our mailserver (catering to @mandrivauser.de) does not
+</I>&gt;<i> show such figures. The percentage of our mailserver shows
+</I>&gt;<i> 56.16% accepted, 43.84 rejected. Of these accepted mails
+</I>&gt;<i> our spam filter shows 20% spam (average). Accordingly the
+</I>&gt;<i> server does not waste recognizable power on the mail system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe with such a setup as yours and such results I may think
+</I>&gt;<i> about changing something, I'd not accept such a situation.
+</I>
+Wobo you completely missread the situation, it's your server setup that
+could still be improved since yours is still accepting spam (which then
+has to be filtered out at a higher cpu cost later on), my server is
+rejecting pratically all spam at the initial SMTP stage, there is nothing
+more efficient than that.
+
+Anyway like you said this is OT here, if you want mail me privately to
+continue this.
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+Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the
+</I>&gt;<i> first
+</I>&gt;<i> place, cause it doesn't seem to make any sense...
+</I>
+Hmmm, it's Friday evening, I guess the beer is starting to kick in ;))
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+<PRE>On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 12:30
+</I>&gt;<i> ----------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-03-04
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Forgot to add:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the primary email address in the mageia-identity db should only be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; used for communication between mageia systems and the user, like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; bugtrack notifications, forum notifications, etc. It should not be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; displayed or made available to the public anywhere.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then we just kill all the efforts we made to have a single account for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; everything?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't think so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you misunderstood me, I'm not talking about multiple accounts, just
+</I>&gt;<i> a second email address associated with the existing mageia account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After all: if you use an address in the mailing list, bugzilla etc. it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is publicly displayed. So what's the matter of displaying the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; adress in the changelog?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't use the same email address on the ML as in my Mageia account (like
+</I>&gt;<i> I said I use separate email addresses for each purpose). I don't think I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> the only one here using a separate email addr for the MLs.
+</I>
+Then you can create multiple Mageia accounts.
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+&gt;<i> AFAIK on bugzilla addresses are not publically displayed (they are only
+</I>&gt;<i> visible for logged in users which in my experience is enough to avoid
+</I>&gt;<i> email harvesters).
+</I>
+They are publically displayed in the mails sent to the bugs mailing
+list. And the mailing list archives are public.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it looks like a big iso again; could it be possible to also have a more
+</I>&gt;<i> minimal iso? or is that hard/alot of work?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in fact, most of the packages we could get later from the mirrors...
+</I>
+Well, my favourite solution would be 2 ISOs anyway:
+ - a large ISO
+ - a minimal boot ISO for installation via ftp (especially for the
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; C. how about we make &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; use the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; (in case of more) (this could also be a packagegroup. eg:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer to maintainers of firefox,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; xulrunner, etc...) (this option might just be too complex)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of managing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it depends, the nickname could still be kept; and we were talking about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; having multiple maintainers in the future?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Except that changelog is not for listing maintainers, but the persons who
+</I>&gt;<i> did some changes.
+</I>
+re-trying to answer more or less coherent:
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+having &quot;cn&quot; attribute for changelog would be best, imho, but it could be
+coupled with the mageia email of the packages(packagegroup). (if that is
+wanted, or even a package email could be made if the person in question
+wouldn't want to have their own email address on it).
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+it's an option that would stop the discussion because hopefully everyone would
+be happy then. but it may be a little complex, as i said.
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99:
+&gt;<i> Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; first
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; place, cause it doesn't seem to make any sense...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmmm, it's Friday evening, I guess the beer is starting to kick in ;))
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+the original comment was from thursday night, iinm, possibly just too late.
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:30:20 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it looks like a big iso again; could it be possible to also have a more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; minimal iso? or is that hard/alot of work?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in fact, most of the packages we could get later from the mirrors...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, my favourite solution would be 2 ISOs anyway:
+</I>&gt;<i> - a large ISO
+</I>&gt;<i> - a minimal boot ISO for installation via ftp (especially for the
+</I>&gt;<i> alpha/beta versions).
+</I>
+well, i was more thinking of the middle ground. something small (around
+500MB), so that we all can get it fast and test earlier, etc... even the
+people with not such a good line as us.
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+if you have the boot.iso, you still have to have your own mirror (which takes
+a lot of bandwidth too).
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+something that has just kde and gnome and not alot of apps, since those are
+available on the mirrors anyway.
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea... i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; first
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; place, cause it doesn't seem to make any sense...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmmm, it's Friday evening, I guess the beer is starting to kick in ;))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the original comment was from thursday night, iinm, possibly just too late.
+</I>
+I do not know any place where drinking beer is not allowed on
+Thursdays but allowed for Fridays - especially not Belgium! :)
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+should have an updater applet, with 2 purposes:
+ - updating mageia
+ - upgrading from mandriva to mageia
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+I'm not sure if this is wanted or not, but IMHO it would be nice to have our
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+A) install it from our website or
+B) perhaps we can submit it to mandriva as well? :-D
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+</I>&gt;<i> if you have the boot.iso, you still have to have your own mirror (which takes
+</I>&gt;<i> a lot of bandwidth too).
+</I>
+Why's that? I select installation via FTP and connect to the next
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; C. how about we make &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; use the maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; (in case of more) (this could also be a packagegroup. eg:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer to maintainers of firefox,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; xulrunner, etc...) (this option might just be too complex)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of managing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it depends, the nickname could still be kept; and we were talking about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; having multiple maintainers in the future?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Except that changelog is not for listing maintainers, but the persons who
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; did some changes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> re-trying to answer more or less coherent:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> having &quot;cn&quot; attribute for changelog would be best, imho, but it could be
+</I>&gt;<i> coupled with the mageia email of the packages(packagegroup). (if that is
+</I>&gt;<i> wanted, or even a package email could be made if the person in question
+</I>&gt;<i> wouldn't want to have their own email address on it).
+</I>
+Using a packagegroup email in changelog doesn't make sense at all,
+changelog is supposed to list the people who made changes, not the
+maintainer of the package. The complaint against using packager email
+in changelog was that &quot;it encourages users to contact packagers directly
+via private email rather than going through the proper support channels&quot;.
+And using a packagegroup email redirected to maintainer doesn't solve
+that.
+
+So you're proposing a solution that doesn't fix the problem.
+
+Actually I don't remember receiving any email from users who found my
+email in a rpm changelog. And if that happens, answering with the URL of
+bugzilla does not take so much time. So I don't think that's a problem.
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+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if you have the boot.iso, you still have to have your own mirror (which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; takes a lot of bandwidth too).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why's that? I select installation via FTP and connect to the next
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia mirror, no?
+</I>
+installation via non-local FTP takes a very long time to do... a lot longer
+then iso install or installing from local rsync
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+perhaps you are blessed with an extremely fast regional mageia mirror that
+will is not over capacity?
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+also during alpha release, there were people who had to wait quite a while to
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+<PRE>fre 2011-03-04 klockan 20:30 +0200 skrev Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it looks like a big iso again; could it be possible to also have a more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; minimal iso? or is that hard/alot of work?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in fact, most of the packages we could get later from the mirrors...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, my favourite solution would be 2 ISOs anyway:
+</I>&gt;<i> - a large ISO
+</I>&gt;<i> - a minimal boot ISO for installation via ftp (especially for the
+</I>&gt;<i> alpha/beta versions).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The minimal boot.iso is already available, as it always have been (also
+in mdv)
+
+check $arch/install/images/boot.iso on your favorite mirror.
+
+And it gets updated after every kernel release.
+
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>2011/3/4 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually I don't remember receiving any email from users who found my
+</I>&gt;<i> email in a rpm changelog. And if that happens, answering with the URL of
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla does not take so much time. So I don't think that's a problem.
+</I>
+In cases any user will contact a packager directly it will most
+probably be the packager who is listed as maintainer in the package
+header, not one of the people listed in the changelog. If somebody
+contacts one of the people in the changelog it will in most cases with
+a question about the change this particular packager made. Then it is
+most probably not a user who sends this mail but a fellow packager or
+developper - people who you want to be contacted by.
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:52:27 schreef nicolas vigier:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 04 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:58:16 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 22:31:10 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 21:54, Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; C. how about we make &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; could use the maintainers database to forward the email to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; maintainers (in case of more) (this could also be a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; packagegroup. eg: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; maintainers of firefox, xulrunner, etc...) (this option might
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; just be too complex)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; That is an elegant and excellent idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Elegant, but as in a changelog, that means the email does not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; match/identify/link to the _person_ taking the step of actually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; committing/releasing the change, but the team in charge of managing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the package. Is that wanted?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; it depends, the nickname could still be kept; and we were talking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; about having multiple maintainers in the future?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Except that changelog is not for listing maintainers, but the persons
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; who did some changes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; re-trying to answer more or less coherent:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; having &quot;cn&quot; attribute for changelog would be best, imho, but it could be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; coupled with the mageia email of the packages(packagegroup). (if that is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wanted, or even a package email could be made if the person in question
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wouldn't want to have their own email address on it).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Using a packagegroup email in changelog doesn't make sense at all,
+</I>&gt;<i> changelog is supposed to list the people who made changes, not the
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer of the package. The complaint against using packager email
+</I>&gt;<i> in changelog was that &quot;it encourages users to contact packagers directly
+</I>&gt;<i> via private email rather than going through the proper support channels&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> And using a packagegroup email redirected to maintainer doesn't solve
+</I>&gt;<i> that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So you're proposing a solution that doesn't fix the problem.
+</I>
+well, maybe only indirectly, since the maintainers should be the people who at
+least (silently) agreed to the change in question.
+
+it often happens someone else makes the change, that is true, and it probably
+would be easier to have the email of that person instead of only the &quot;cn&quot;
+field.
+
+&gt;<i> Actually I don't remember receiving any email from users who found my
+</I>&gt;<i> email in a rpm changelog. And if that happens, answering with the URL of
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla does not take so much time. So I don't think that's a problem.
+</I>
+i didn't either, but then i didn't commit much.
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:41:59 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 19:23:51 schreef Tux99:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Quote: Maarten Vanraes wrote on Fri, 04 March 2011 19:15
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; to be honest, i reread this thread a few times, and i have no idea...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; i
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; clarified my point, but i donno why i was making such a point in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; first
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; place, cause it doesn't seem to make any sense...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hmmm, it's Friday evening, I guess the beer is starting to kick in ;))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the original comment was from thursday night, iinm, possibly just too
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; late.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not know any place where drinking beer is not allowed on
+</I>&gt;<i> Thursdays but allowed for Fridays - especially not Belgium! :)
+</I>
+well, maybe some belgians don't drink any beer... :-)
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+<PRE>2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;<i> installation via non-local FTP takes a very long time to do... a lot longer
+</I>&gt;<i> then iso install or installing from local rsync
+</I>
+Well, this has been a discussion at all times as it depends on what
+you want to install. If you want to install a small system you may be
+better off with an ftp installation than downloading a large ISO from
+the same server as you use for installation. So, as I said, I'd like
+to have both for choice.
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+tmb wrote:
+&gt;<i> The minimal boot.iso is already available
+</I>
+Yes, I know and I already tested it :)
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+</I>&gt;<i> well, maybe some belgians don't drink any beer... :-)
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+Well, I have lots of witnesses that you do not belong to this very small group!
+Sorry for the OT!
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 20:05:55 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; well, maybe some belgians don't drink any beer... :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I have lots of witnesses that you do not belong to this very small
+</I>&gt;<i> group! Sorry for the OT!
+</I>
+haha, i think you will have to doublecheck those, and see if they actually
+seen me drink any beer... i'm pretty sure guillomovitch will know for sure as
+he's a experienced beer drinker... :-)
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+<PRE>2011/3/4 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installation via non-local FTP takes a very long time to do... a lot longer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then iso install or installing from local rsync
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, this has been a discussion at all times as it depends on what
+</I>&gt;<i> you want to install. If you want to install a small system you may be
+</I>&gt;<i> better off with an ftp installation than downloading a large ISO from
+</I>&gt;<i> the same server as you use for installation. So, as I said, I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> to have both for choice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tmb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The minimal boot.iso is already available
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, I know and I already tested it :)
+</I>
+Also as stated already we will have dual arch iso which is 32 / 64
+bits iso (700Mo)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 3 March 2011 23:58, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Works OK.
+</I>
+thierry do you plan to update mesa too ?
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+<PRE>On 4 March 2011 20:33, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Works OK.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thierry do you plan to update mesa too ?
+</I>
+Not for now.
+Hopefully mesa &amp; x11 are somewhat decoupled now.
+I want first to get xserver-1.10 to work smoothly.
+
+You can find packages rebuild against xserver-1.10 (for both mdv &amp; mga)
+here (warning: I 'ven't bumped %release):
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+<PRE>fre 2011-03-04 klockan 21:46 +0200 skrev Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 4 March 2011 20:33, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Works OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thierry do you plan to update mesa too ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully mesa &amp; x11 are somewhat decoupled now.
+</I>&gt;<i> I want first to get xserver-1.10 to work smoothly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can find packages rebuild against xserver-1.10 (for both mdv &amp; mga)
+</I>&gt;<i> here (warning: I 'ven't bumped %release):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/">http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/</A>
+</I>
+Why not core/testing as planned ?
+
+--
+Thomas
+
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+&gt;<i> I don't know if this has been though of by others, but i was thinking we
+</I>&gt;<i> should have an updater applet, with 2 purposes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- updating mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- upgrading from mandriva to mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure if this is wanted or not, but IMHO it would be nice to have our
+</I>&gt;<i> applet built for mdv, so people can
+</I>&gt;<i> A) install it from our website or
+</I>&gt;<i> B) perhaps we can submit it to mandriva as well? :-D
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> fre 2011-03-04 klockan 21:46 +0200 skrev Thierry Vignaud:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 4 March 2011 20:33, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Works OK.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; thierry do you plan to update mesa too ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not for now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hopefully mesa &amp; x11 are somewhat decoupled now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I want first to get xserver-1.10 to work smoothly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can find packages rebuild against xserver-1.10 (for both mdv &amp; mga)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here (warning: I 'ven't bumped %release):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/">http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not core/testing as planned ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+it seems that there is a pb to puhs on core/testing for the moment.
+boklm, can you please look why ? so we will be able to test this new X11
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fre 2011-03-04 klockan 21:46 +0200 skrev Thierry Vignaud:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 4 March 2011 20:33, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Works OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; thierry do you plan to update mesa too ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Not for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hopefully mesa &amp; x11 are somewhat decoupled now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I want first to get xserver-1.10 to work smoothly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; You can find packages rebuild against xserver-1.10 (for both mdv &amp; mga)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; here (warning: I 'ven't bumped %release):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/">http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why not core/testing as planned ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it seems that there is a pb to puhs on core/testing for the moment.
+</I>&gt;<i> boklm, can you please look why ? so we will be able to test this new X11
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tks
+</I>
+I'll check it out
+
+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>fre 2011-03-04 klockan 22:18 +0200 skrev Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> fre 2011-03-04 klockan 22:05 +0200 skrev Dexter Morgan:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; fre 2011-03-04 klockan 21:46 +0200 skrev Thierry Vignaud:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; On 4 March 2011 20:33, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I've tested it on radeon.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Works OK.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; thierry do you plan to update mesa too ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Not for now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Hopefully mesa &amp; x11 are somewhat decoupled now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; I want first to get xserver-1.10 to work smoothly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; You can find packages rebuild against xserver-1.10 (for both mdv &amp; mga)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; here (warning: I 'ven't bumped %release):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/">http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Why not core/testing as planned ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it seems that there is a pb to puhs on core/testing for the moment.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; boklm, can you please look why ? so we will be able to test this new X11
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll check it out
+</I>
+There is no bug, only submission error :)
+
+the media is core/updates_testing, not core/testing
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+So Thierry, feel free to resubmit to the BS ...
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE 4.6.1 is on the way so please don't upgrade too fast :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok, KDE 4.6.1 is now build &amp; is on the way on various mirror.
+The only missing part are kde-l10n but they should be available soon
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+I'll push also digikam &amp; kipi-plugins.
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+<PRE>On 4 March 2011 21:26, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; You can find packages rebuild against xserver-1.10 (for both mdv &amp; mga)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; here (warning: I 'ven't bumped %release):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/">http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Why not core/testing as planned ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; it seems that there is a pb to puhs on core/testing for the moment.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; boklm, can you please look why ? &#160;so we will be able to test this new X11
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; tks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll check it out
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no bug, only submission error :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the media is core/updates_testing, not core/testing
+</I>
+Well, I pasted output of mageia --help...
+I would have fixed but:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tv at julihasoig</A> mgarepo]$ svn di
+Index: MgaRepo/commands/submit.py
+===================================================================
+--- MgaRepo/commands/submit.py (r&#233;vision 629)
++++ MgaRepo/commands/submit.py (copie de travail)
+@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
+ mgarepo submit <A HREF="https://repos/svn/mga/cauldron/foo">https://repos/svn/mga/cauldron/foo</A>
+ mgarepo submit -l <A HREF="https://repos">https://repos</A>
+ mgarepo submit 1/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">my-packages at 11011</A>
+- mgarepo submit --define section=core/testing -t 1
++ mgarepo submit --define section=core/updates_testing -t 1
+ &quot;&quot;&quot;
+
+ DEFAULT_TARGET = &quot;Cooker&quot;
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tv at julihasoig</A> mgarepo]$ svn ci -m 'fix example in usage message'
+svn: Commit failed (details follow):
+svn: Authorization failed
+
+Can you enhance my commit powers :-) ?
+
+&gt;<i> So Thierry, feel free to resubmit to the BS ...
+</I>
+Will do
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 4 March 2011 21:26, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; You can find packages rebuild against xserver-1.10 (for both mdv &amp; mga)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; here (warning: I 'ven't bumped %release):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/">http://kenobi.mandriva.com/~tv/x110/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Why not core/testing as planned ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; it seems that there is a pb to puhs on core/testing for the moment.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; boklm, can you please look why ? &#160;so we will be able to test this new X11
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; tks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll check it out
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is no bug, only submission error :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the media is core/updates_testing, not core/testing
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I pasted output of mageia --help...
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have fixed but:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tv at julihasoig</A> mgarepo]$ svn di
+</I>&gt;<i> Index: MgaRepo/commands/submit.py
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- MgaRepo/commands/submit.py &#160;(r&#233;vision 629)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ MgaRepo/commands/submit.py &#160;(copie de travail)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; mgarepo submit <A HREF="https://repos/svn/mga/cauldron/foo">https://repos/svn/mga/cauldron/foo</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; mgarepo submit -l <A HREF="https://repos">https://repos</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; mgarepo submit 1/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">my-packages at 11011</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - &#160; &#160;mgarepo submit --define section=core/testing -t 1
+</I>&gt;<i> + &#160; &#160;mgarepo submit --define section=core/updates_testing -t 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;&quot;&quot;&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;DEFAULT_TARGET = &quot;Cooker&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tv at julihasoig</A> mgarepo]$ svn ci -m 'fix example in usage message'
+</I>&gt;<i> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
+</I>&gt;<i> svn: Authorization failed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you enhance my commit powers :-) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So Thierry, feel free to resubmit to the BS ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will do
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>you should be allowed to commit.
+
+are you sure you didn't done an anonymous checkout ?
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 20:19:01 schreef Anne nicolas:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; installation via non-local FTP takes a very long time to do... a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; longer then iso install or installing from local rsync
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, this has been a discussion at all times as it depends on what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you want to install. If you want to install a small system you may be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; better off with an ftp installation than downloading a large ISO from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the same server as you use for installation. So, as I said, I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to have both for choice.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tmb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The minimal boot.iso is already available
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, I know and I already tested it :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also as stated already we will have dual arch iso which is 32 / 64
+</I>&gt;<i> bits iso (700Mo)
+</I>
+I'm aware of that, i was just talking about the alpha2, if it'd be smaller,
+it'd be faster to be tested on, that is all.
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 21:01:02 schreef Ahmad Samir:
+&gt;<i> On 4 March 2011 20:43, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't know if this has been though of by others, but i was thinking we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should have an updater applet, with 2 purposes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - updating mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - upgrading from mandriva to mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not sure if this is wanted or not, but IMHO it would be nice to have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; our applet built for mdv, so people can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A) install it from our website or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; B) perhaps we can submit it to mandriva as well? :-D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mdkonline is planned to be added to the repos once it's been cleaned, IIUC.
+</I>
+right, well, i just thought i'd be good if we had it, so we could use it for
+mdv upgrade testing (if we could build it for mdv).
+
+is anyone really cleaning mdkonline? or is that not a priority now?
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 20:19:01 schreef Anne nicolas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; installation via non-local FTP takes a very long time to do... a lot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; longer then iso install or installing from local rsync
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Well, this has been a discussion at all times as it depends on what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; you want to install. If you want to install a small system you may be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; better off with an ftp installation than downloading a large ISO from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; the same server as you use for installation. So, as I said, I'd like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; to have both for choice.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; tmb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The minimal boot.iso is already available
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, I know and I already tested it :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also as stated already we will have dual arch iso which is 32 / 64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bits iso (700Mo)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm aware of that, i was just talking about the alpha2, if it'd be smaller,
+</I>&gt;<i> it'd be faster to be tested on, that is all.
+</I>
+I will not make isos specifically for alpha... The sooner we test full
+list of packages the better it is. If you need smaller iso then use
+boot.iso or dual
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 22:17:10 schreef Anne nicolas:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 20:19:01 schreef Anne nicolas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2011/3/4 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; 2011/3/4 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; installation via non-local FTP takes a very long time to do... a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; longer then iso install or installing from local rsync
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Well, this has been a discussion at all times as it depends on what
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; you want to install. If you want to install a small system you may be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; better off with an ftp installation than downloading a large ISO from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; the same server as you use for installation. So, as I said, I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; to have both for choice.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; tmb wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The minimal boot.iso is already available
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Yes, I know and I already tested it :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Also as stated already we will have dual arch iso which is 32 / 64
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; bits iso (700Mo)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm aware of that, i was just talking about the alpha2, if it'd be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; smaller, it'd be faster to be tested on, that is all.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will not make isos specifically for alpha... The sooner we test full
+</I>&gt;<i> list of packages the better it is. If you need smaller iso then use
+</I>&gt;<i> boot.iso or dual
+</I>
+ok, i did say if it was too much trouble we shouldn't do it.
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+
+btfrs-progs
+
+And then there is the question of firmwares in nonfree
+I guess we need to add them so people can get network access.
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+--
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+
+ so as done before on another time and land, I have pushed a rpmlint
+ specific
+ policy for Mageia, aptly named 'rpmlint-mageia-policy&quot; ( maybe
+ rpmlint-policy-mageia would be better, not sure ).
+
+ For those that do not know, rpmlint is a tool to check a rpm against a
+ list
+ of rules written in python, that is used on Fedora, Mandriva, opensuse
+ and likely others too. The tool is used on upload to refuse some rpms
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+ on this rules, and should be used by people to check rpms, to make sure
+ that
+ no obvious errors is still there. However, this is not a perfect tool,
+ and it can still give false positives, so people should not use without
+ understanding errors.
+
+ But we can filter and configure it to be a little more perfect.
+
+ In a rather autocratic fashion, as the maintainer of rpmlint ( both
+ packages
+ and uptream ), as a packager representative, and as a apprentice
+ dictator
+ ( since there is lots of open position in this sector since a few weeks
+ ),
+ I propose that this become the canonical source for rpmlint
+ configuration.
+
+ In practice, that mean that false positives will have to be added
+ there,
+ that stuff that are noted as errors need to be set in that package, and
+ any policy changes must be made there.
+
+ So the question is &quot;how do we deal with evolution ( ie, how do we
+ decide
+ something is now a error, or no longer one&quot;.
+
+ Traditionally, packagers didn't care at all, and so the configuration
+ bitrotted
+ since a long time, and people didn't used it, and I just added false
+ positives
+ when packagers notified it ( ie, almost never, except when I noticed
+ some of them ).
+ I suspect that my lack of communication around that didn't help ( and
+ so
+ people didn't knew they could ask for adding a false positive to the
+ list
+ of error to ignore ).
+
+ Yet, I think we can do better, so feel free to suggest any mad idea for
+ this.
+--
+ Michael Scherer
+
+
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 22:30:03 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> Please add:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> btfrs-progs
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And then there is the question of firmwares in nonfree
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess we need to add them so people can get network access.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+should some parts of installer have dependency on btrfs-progs? diskdrake for
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 22:30:03 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please add:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> btfrs-progs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And then there is the question of firmwares in nonfree
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess we need to add them so people can get network access.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> should some parts of installer have dependency on btrfs-progs? diskdrake for
+</I>&gt;<i> instance?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+iirc this will be needed later when btrfs will be provided which
+filesystem checks and need on normal part of the installer
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+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+<PRE>On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+
+
+&gt;<i> I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A. possibly &quot;cn&quot; could be editable in identity
+</I>
+Please stop referring to possibilities that exist as if they don't ... it is
+depressing that people keep assuming things don't work, when one has put
+effort into making them work ...
+
+(IOW, if users should *not* be able to edit cn, then there is one
+configuration entry to edit)
+
+&gt;<i> ==&gt; this will allow people to fill in what they want, be it full name,
+</I>&gt;<i> nickname, or full name AND nickname
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cn could then be used as the name field
+</I>
+That is the current situation, at least in bugzilla, and should be in forum.
+
+&gt;<i> B. an email address is required IMHO, and preferably a @mageia.org email
+</I>&gt;<i> address
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> however, if people wouldn't want to have their email address listed, an
+</I>&gt;<i> extra option is this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C. how about we make &lt;packagename&gt;@packages.mageia.org, which could use the
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more)
+</I>&gt;<i> (this could also be a packagegroup. eg: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could
+</I>&gt;<i> refer to maintainers of firefox, xulrunner, etc...) (this option might
+</I>&gt;<i> just be too complex)
+</I>
+/me notes that this might be easier done in LDAP, as a postfix alias map.
+Which begs the question ... should the maintainer &quot;database&quot; be in LDAP
+instead?
+
+(BTW., I was thinking along the lines of package groups, with multi-valued
+attribute for package name and maintainer. e.g.:
+
+dn: cn=firefoxteam,ou=Packages,dc=mageia,dc=org
+objectClass: mageiaPackageGroup
+cn: firefox-team
+mail: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A>
+mageiaPackage: firefox
+mageiaPackage: firefox-en_gb
+mageiaPackage: firefox-ext-firebug
+....
+mageiaMaintainer: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at mageia.org</A>
+mageiaMaintainer: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bar at mageia.org</A>
+owner: uid=xxx,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org
+
+&gt;<i> D. if people really want to use their own personal email address, perhaps
+</I>&gt;<i> one can be opted-in to use that one. (but this should be decided in a
+</I>&gt;<i> policy and be strict on it either YES/NO)
+</I>
+Per-user options are difficult to administer, I would prefer the same
+behaviour for everyone, and the choice to provide data at the user's
+discretion. E.g., the current situation, where contributors are requested to
+provide real givenName,sn, but are free to use whatever cn they prefer, and
+all external tools use cn. sn and givenName are only used for account/identity
+validation, legal requirements etc. and all uses of the data must respect
+privacy policy.
+
+&gt;<i> personally, i like:
+</I>&gt;<i> A, B, C, but vote NO for D.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i would like to use &quot;AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at mageia.org</A>&gt;&quot; being used. my real name is
+</I>&gt;<i> kind of not linked the the email address.
+</I>
+Well, I haven't seen any authoritative statement on whether all contributors
+will have @mageia.org aliases, and some work needs to be done for this if it
+will be provided.
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
+</PRE>
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="003003.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="002941.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002946.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002948.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002954.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002985.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002987.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+
+<LI><A HREF="002991.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<LI><A HREF="002994.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<LI><A HREF="002995.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002939.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002942.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002945.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002932.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
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+
+<LI><A HREF="002933.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
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+<I>Anssi Hannula
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+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
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+
+<LI><A HREF="003025.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="3025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002927.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
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+<I>Dexter Morgan
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+</A><A NAME="2953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
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+</A><A NAME="2959">&nbsp;</A>
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+</I>
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+</A><A NAME="3013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002930.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002966.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002934.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002935.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002940.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002943.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002944.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002947.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002952.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
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+</A><A NAME="2968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="002978.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002979.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002974.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
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+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="002975.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002977.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002982.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002983.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002984.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002986.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="2986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002989.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002992.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002993.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002996.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
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+</A><A NAME="3008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
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+</A><A NAME="3009">&nbsp;</A>
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+</A><A NAME="3014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="002928.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
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+<LI><A HREF="002938.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
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+<LI><A HREF="002999.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2999">&nbsp;</A>
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+<LI><A HREF="003006.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
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+
+<LI><A HREF="002931.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002971.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002949.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
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+
+<LI><A HREF="002951.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002960.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002997.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003010.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002990.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tmb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002973.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002976.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002980.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002988.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 4 23:29:55 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Mar 5 08:50:41 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
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+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>4 March 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 00:03:32 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 23:29:55 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 90<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002927.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002928.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002929.html">[Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
+</A><A NAME="2929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002930.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002931.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002932.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002933.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002934.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002935.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002936.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002937.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002938.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003025.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="3025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002939.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002940.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002941.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002942.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002943.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002944.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002945.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002946.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002947.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002948.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002949.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002950.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002951.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002952.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002953.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002954.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002955.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002956.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002957.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002958.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002959.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002960.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002961.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dj Marian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002962.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002963.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002964.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002965.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002966.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002967.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002968.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002969.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002970.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002971.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002973.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002974.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002975.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002976.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002977.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002978.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002979.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002980.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002981.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002982.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002983.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002984.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002985.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002986.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="2986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002987.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002988.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002989.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002990.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tmb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002992.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002991.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002993.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002994.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002995.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002996.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002997.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002998.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002999.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003000.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003001.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="3001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003002.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003003.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003005.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003004.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003006.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003007.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003008.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003009.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="3009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003010.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003011.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003012.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003013.html">[Mageia-dev] Rpmlint configuration, false positives
+</A><A NAME="3013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003014.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003015.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 4 23:29:55 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Mar 5 08:50:41 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>4 March 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 00:03:32 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 23:29:55 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 90<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003005.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002949.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002950.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002951.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002955.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002956.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002958.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002960.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002961.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dj Marian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002962.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002963.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002965.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002967.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002968.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002971.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002974.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002975.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002981.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002984.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002987.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002989.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002990.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tmb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002994.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002997.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003008.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003010.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003011.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003012.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003014.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003015.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002929.html">[Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
+</A><A NAME="2929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002988.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002973.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002976.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002980.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002992.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002930.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002934.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002935.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003025.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="3025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002939.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002940.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002942.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002943.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002944.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002945.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002947.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002952.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002953.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002977.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002978.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002979.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002982.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002983.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002993.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002996.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002932.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002931.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002933.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002941.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002946.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002948.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002954.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002985.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002995.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002991.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002957.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002959.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002964.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002966.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002969.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002970.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003013.html">[Mageia-dev] Rpmlint configuration, false positives
+</A><A NAME="3013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002986.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="2986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003001.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="3001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003009.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="3009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002927.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002928.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002936.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002937.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002938.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002998.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002999.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003000.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003002.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003003.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003004.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003006.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003007.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 4 23:29:55 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Mar 5 08:50:41 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>4 March 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 00:03:32 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Mar 4 23:29:55 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 90<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01299193412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002927.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299193412-01299223129- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002936.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299193420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002928.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299193420-01299224639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002937.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299203168- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002929.html">[Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
+</A><A NAME="2929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299209689- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002930.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299213819- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002931.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299213819-01299262333- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002976.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299214041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002932.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299214041-01299215086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002934.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002935.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002939.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002940.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299240837- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002941.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299240837-01299241417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002943.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299240837-01299241417-01299242207- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002946.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299240837-01299241417-01299242207-01299242726- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002947.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299240837-01299241417-01299242207-01299242726-01299243421- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002948.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299240837-01299241417-01299242207-01299242726-01299243421-01299245617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002952.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299240837-01299241417-01299242207-01299242726-01299243421-01299245617-01299250146- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002954.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299240837-01299241417-01299242207-01299242726-01299243421-01299245617-01299250146-01299262816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002978.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299241148- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002942.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299241148-01299241828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002944.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299241148-01299241828-01299242115- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002945.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214041-01299215086-01299215406-01299238208-01299239889-01299263359- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002980.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299214223- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002933.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299214223-01299261511- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002972.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299214223-01299261511-01299261669- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002973.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299214223-01299261511-01299261669-01299262506- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002977.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214223-01299261511-01299261669-01299262506-01299263031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002979.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214223-01299261511-01299261669-01299262506-01299263031-01299263613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002983.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214223-01299261511-01299261669-01299262506-01299263031-01299263613-01299264119- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002985.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214223-01299261511-01299261669-01299262506-01299263031-01299263613-01299264119-01299265119- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002993.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214223-01299261511-01299261669-01299262506-01299263031-01299263613-01299264119-01299265119-01299265555- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002995.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299214223-01299261511-01299261669-01299262506-01299263031-01299263613-01299264119-01299265119-01299265555-01299265909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002996.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299225597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002938.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299225597-01299267214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002998.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299225597-01299267214-01299268007- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002999.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="2999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299225597-01299267214-01299268007-01299268680- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003000.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299225597-01299267214-01299268007-01299268680-01299269100- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003002.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299225597-01299267214-01299268007-01299268680-01299269100-01299269924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003003.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299225597-01299267214-01299268007-01299268680-01299269100-01299269924-01299270364- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003004.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299225597-01299267214-01299268007-01299268680-01299269100-01299269924-01299270364-01299271785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003006.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299225597-01299267214-01299268007-01299268680-01299269100-01299269924-01299270364-01299271785-01299272672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003007.html">[Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
+</A><A NAME="3007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299225902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003025.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="3025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299244868- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002949.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299244868-01299245131- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002950.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299244868-01299245131-01299245187- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002951.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01299244868-01299251160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002955.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299244868-01299251160-01299251324- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002956.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01299244868-01299251793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002958.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299244868-01299251793-01299251880- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002960.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01299244868-01299252279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002962.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299244868-01299252279-01299253740- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002965.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01299244868-01299252816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002963.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01299244868-01299255266- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002967.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299244868-01299255266-01299257902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002968.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01299244868-01299259251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002971.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01299244868-01299262066- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002975.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002981.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002984.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002987.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002989.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882-01299265423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002994.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882-01299265423-01299266341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002997.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882-01299265423-01299266341-01299273105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003008.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882-01299265423-01299266341-01299273105-01299273430- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003010.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882-01299265423-01299266341-01299273105-01299273430-01299273620- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003011.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882-01299265423-01299266341-01299273105-01299274203- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003012.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882-01299265423-01299266341-01299273105-01299274203-01299277191- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003014.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299263910-01299264277-01299264882-01299265423-01299266341-01299273105-01299274203-01299277191-01299277795- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003015.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="3015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299244868-01299262066-01299263420-01299264963- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002990.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tmb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299245854- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002953.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299251537- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002957.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299251537-01299251837- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002959.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299251537-01299251837-01299253677- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002964.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299251537-01299251837-01299253677-01299254274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002966.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299251537-01299251837-01299253677-01299254274-01299258364- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002969.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299251537-01299251837-01299253677-01299258562- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002970.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="2970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01299251537-01299269952- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003005.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] KDE Upgrade on the way
+</A><A NAME="3005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299252024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002961.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dj Marian
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299252024-01299261954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002974.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
+</A><A NAME="2974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299263532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002982.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299263532-01299264747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002988.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299263532-01299264747-01299265088- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002992.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01299263532-01299264747-01299265091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002991.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or?not? or maybe?
+</A><A NAME="2991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299264226- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002986.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="2986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299264226-01299268862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003001.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="3001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299264226-01299268862-01299273281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003009.html">[Mageia-dev] updater applet
+</A><A NAME="3009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299274236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003013.html">[Mageia-dev] Rpmlint configuration, false positives
+</A><A NAME="3013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Mar 4 23:29:55 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Mar 5 08:50:41 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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