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The discussion slipped to whether: +</I>><i> * packagers/contributors [sh|w]ould use & publish their real name (as +</I>><i> registered in identity), +</I>><i> * packagers/contributors [sh|w]ould publish their contact email (same), +</I>><i> * in their contributions to the project (here, in the changelog), +</I>><i> * if it should be strictly enforced or not, and why. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> for practical or personal reasons. It's a general, pretty key matter, +</I>><i> it's been rightly suggested to raise the point here, so here it is. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can't enforce anything unless we decide on this first and this +</I>><i> thread is here to gather views. What we (Council) will decide later on +</I>><i> about this depends on the outcomes of the discussion (and if we ever +</I>><i> decide or not btw). It will be part of the project's privacy policy. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And please try to keep this discussion to the point, focused and +</I>><i> civilized; state your views, don't infer on others' ones, stay cool. +</I>><i> Or your point will become shallow and the discussion will be wasted. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The points to decide here are: +</I>><i> a) should a contributor provide a public email address, to be used in +</I>><i> changelogs, commits and everywhere her contribution to the project +</I>><i> needs an id or contact id? (for instance changelog, commit, document +</I>><i> authoring) +</I>><i> b) should a contributor provide a real name for the same goals? or is +</I>><i> a fake name/alias ok, as long as there are people that do know/meet +</I>><i> the person? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I won't comment on pros and cons below (not exclusive of others), but +</I>><i> those were raised in the discussion before: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The pros (as in "yes one should"): +</I>><i> - that is the common way used in MDV and other major distributions +</I>><i> - (email or name) it identifies the author of a change to the project/code +</I>><i> - (email) it helps identifying & contacting directly someone in the +</I>><i> project (peer review or any ad hoc matter) +</I>><i> - (email & name) it helps building confidence among contributors and +</I>><i> from the outside +</I>><i> - (name) it encourages people to adopt a consistent behaviour +</I>><i> - (email & name) it builds one's contributions list for +</I>><i> future/outside reference +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The cons (as in "no, one should be free not to") +</I>><i> - public email addresses get spammed +</I>><i> - personal preferences to not reveal one's name +</I>><i> - there are situations where anonymity is a requirement or "nice to +</I>><i> have" (from a personal or corporate point of view) +</I>><i> - it will encourage people to contact directly contributors instead +</I>><i> of using other expected channels +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Note that one may use a fake name/identity anyway to stay anonymous +</I>><i> (but unless one already has a network of trust within a group, she +</I>><i> would not have a past public record to help building her new +</I>><i> reputation). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What is at stake is the accountability for each contributor, hence for +</I>><i> the whole project. What will matter is what one does and how. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And again, let's have this point discussed in a cool, informative, +</I>><i> constructive and efficient way, please. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I> +I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options: + + +A. possibly "cn" could be editable in identity +==> this will allow people to fill in what they want, be it full name, +nickname, or full name AND nickname + +cn could then be used as the name field + + +B. an email address is required IMHO, and preferably a @mageia.org email +address + +however, if people wouldn't want to have their email address listed, an extra +option is this: + +C. how about we make <packagename>@packages.mageia.org, which could use the +maintainers database to forward the email to maintainers (in case of more) +(this could also be a packagegroup. eg: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">firefox at packages.mageia.org</A> could refer +to maintainers of firefox, xulrunner, etc...) (this option might just be too +complex) + +D. if people really want to use their own personal email address, perhaps one +can be opted-in to use that one. (but this should be decided in a policy and +be strict on it either YES/NO) + + +personally, i like: +A, B, C, but vote NO for D. + +i would like to use "AL13N <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at mageia.org</A>>" being used. my real name is +kind of not linked the the email address. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002916.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002920.html">[Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2919">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2919">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2919">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2919">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |