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+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+----- &quot;devzero2000&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">devzero2000 at rpm5.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Apart from the rest - of which i will ask for sponsorship when it
+</I>&gt;<i> will
+</I>&gt;<i> be - I wanted to know if there are plans to move to rpm5 by Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> such as Mandriva has been doing lately.
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> Rpm5 already has a builtbot
+</I>&gt;<i> with Magela and rpm5. I can, if you can think useful or have plan for
+</I>&gt;<i> this, lay the necessary modification to enter into rpm5 Mageia, with
+</I>&gt;<i> the features of Mandriva cooker - fingerprint, syslog, etc. without
+</I>&gt;<i> trademark ecc- and produce a first rpm rpm5 for mageia , which also
+</I>&gt;<i> contains the functionality required by the passage to the &quot;RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> ACID &quot; feauture (berkeley db conversion)
+</I>
+But, can you:
+-ensure that all valid packages that build under rpm-4.x (e.g. in Mandriva 2010.x) will build under rpm5?
+-ensure that all valid packages that install under rpm-4.x will install under rpm-4.x?
+
+There is no document specifying what has changed, or even when highlighting changes, no-one (@rpm5.org, or @mandriva.com) has bothered to list them so that contributors can save time instead of troubleshooting breakage.
+
+Some issues that have impacted me so far:
+-changed behaviour of %exclude
+-new reserved macros (%sql)
+-possible race condition between %__os_install_post and processing of %files (.lzma man pages reported missing where they are in fact .xz)
+
+(and of course, the unavailability of the build system - during one of the periods I had the most time to work on packages - due to the rpm5 &quot;upgrade&quot;)
+
+rpm5 has wasted more than half of the time I could afford to contribute to Mandriva. It seems Mandriva has resources to waste, I don't think we have.
+
+(At present, I am not sure if I will continue to maintain packages in Mandriva, the ones where I need newer packages on non-Mandriva at work which I currently maintain in Mandriva and then rebuild I will maintain for the present, but ones I don't need for work may languish ...)
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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