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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?</H1>
+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net
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+ <I>Tue Feb 22 11:15:22 CET 2011</I>
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+----- &quot;Thorsten van Lil&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Am 22.02.2011 09:07, schrieb Buchan Milne:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The user will still *always* be able to decide what he wants. The
+</I>&gt;<i> question is, what to do for users who don't know what to decide. IMHO,
+</I>&gt;<i> for a first time user, it is *much* better to give them a &quot;Use
+</I>&gt;<i> available space, with growable filesystems&quot; or similar, than a
+</I>&gt;<i> statically partitioned, based on difficult-to-get-right heuristics.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's a good point. The step for partitioning is still the most
+</I>&gt;<i> complex
+</I>&gt;<i> one during the installation. There are really often questions and
+</I>&gt;<i> discussions how to partition the hard disk.
+</I>
+Exactly. Dispensing with this requirement would make installation much easier, and still put the user in a position where they aren't setup for failure (all other solutions do, IMHO).
+
+&gt;<i> But, as a user who doesn't know anything about LVM, we should only
+</I>&gt;<i> switch if the algorithm for LVM works really really stable and is easy
+</I>
+With static partitions, the heuristics have to be good. For LVM, they just have to:
+-Ensure enough space for installation to succeed
+-Ensure a large percentage of the VG is not allocated (as growing is easier than shrinking)
+
+&gt;<i> to use.
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems to me positive to switch to LVM for default but it's not
+</I>&gt;<i> really
+</I>&gt;<i> important,
+</I>
+You obviously haven't seen how many users have questions about shrinking / from 50GB because they need more space for /home, or similar questions, on IRC.
+
+&gt;<i> so we don't should risk to much and take the time it needs,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of forcing it to be finished for the next release, for
+</I>&gt;<i> example.
+</I>
+I listed the issues that I believe block switching to LVM by default. If they are fixed, I would think it would be an idea to launch the first stable release with LVM by default.
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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