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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 22 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 03:36 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/2/21 Buchan Milne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Monday, 21 February 2011 11:49:27 Thomas Lottmann wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I am still not convinced of how easy this can be. For having attempted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to manage (and learn) how to manage LVM partitons with CentOS, it is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; quite complicated. So it certainly has many advantages, but I'm awaiting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; an intuitive disk manager like Diskdrake to manage this stuff without
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the need of preliminary knowledge.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, with diskdrake, it's no problem. Anaconda's LVM interface is quite
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; confusing and complex. After installation, AFAIK, you can't access the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; interface. system-config-lvm (if it's still around) was also pretty unusable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But, we have diskdrake, so why are the problems of CentOS an issue?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because (as I remarked earlier) there are people who have other Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> flavors on their harddisk before they try Mageia - what if they do
+</I>&gt;<i> their partitioning with those (i.e. CentOS)?
+</I>
+Well, if they have already partitions to reuse ( ie, ex centos
+partition ), they will just reuse them without lvm and that's all. And
+if they do not have any partition to reuse, or just a part of the disk,
+we are in the same case, there is free space and we can use it as we
+want.
+
+&gt;<i> Again, people do not work all the same. There are people who do their
+</I>&gt;<i> partitioning with 3rd-party apps like gparted or others. There are
+</I>&gt;<i> people who like to have a bootloader in the root partition of each
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux they install (using chainloader in the first Linux' grub), etc.
+</I>
+And what exactly would be broken with lvm and theses schemes ?
+
+Arguments based on &quot;there is some special cases that would requires
+special care&quot; are not very helpful if the special case is not described
+in details, and we cannot have technical discussion based on imprecise
+input.
+
+&gt;<i> IMHO it is a bad idea to make LVM default, because there are too many
+</I>&gt;<i> cases around where people would not want LVM. LVM as an option is a
+</I>&gt;<i> far better solution and let the user decide what he wants.
+</I>
+Making it be default doesn't mean that the user cannot decide to opt
+out, this argument do not seems very strong.
+
+This is a default, not something that would be forced to use.
+
+And this is not a all or nothing, you can perfectly have a partition in
+the lvm, and one outside ( or several, or any mix you want ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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