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+ <B>Thomas Lottmann</B>
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+ <I>Mon Feb 21 10:49:27 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le 21/02/2011 10:36, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 21 February 2011 08:51, P. Christeas&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">p_christ at hol.gr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think about switching from defaulting to installing on raw
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> partitions to lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installing on LVs like fedora does ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I vote against that. (=to be enabled by default)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LVM is fine for &quot;enterprise&quot; setups, or better, installations where the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (expert) admin will need to resize/move partitions in the future. But, for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> simple machines/users, the complexity of having LVM is IMHO not worth it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (remember also that on all *nix OSes, you can just add a partition, move some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files like /usr/share/doc into it and then mount it on /usr/share/doc, thus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> freeing /usr of some space. No LVM, no virtualization, no ZFS required)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not as easy as LVM (need to use a partitionner).
+</I>&gt;<i> Diskdrake and the like will force you to umount the partitions to resize
+</I>&gt;<i> which may needs to boot on a rescue CD (eg for resizing / fs)
+</I>&gt;<i> It may not be possible ie:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - you already have 4 primary partitions and none of them is an extended one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - If you've a small 8Go partition at start of the disk followed by one
+</I>&gt;<i> To partition
+</I>&gt;<i> and you want to increase the first one, you're screwed without LVM
+</I>&gt;<i> With LVM, you can just got some free space from anywhere (even another disk)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's more, one gains many features:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - snapshots (yes snapshots for sql db backups are not for end users) but still
+</I>&gt;<i> usefull for saving the whole system at one fixed time
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - you can extend some filesystems from space from other disks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - it's easier to add space where needed when defaults partitions sizing proved
+</I>&gt;<i> to be altered after some usage
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - one can live resize (w/o umouting/remounting)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - one can use snapshots in order to rollback dangerous update
+</I>&gt;<i> (eg: for trying initscript -&gt; systemd switch, ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it brings many usefull features.
+</I>&gt;<i> Those who don't want LVM could still do manual partitionning.
+</I>
+I am still not convinced of how easy this can be. For having attempted
+to manage (and learn) how to manage LVM partitons with CentOS, it is
+quite complicated. So it certainly has many advantages, but I'm awaiting
+an intuitive disk manager like Diskdrake to manage this stuff without
+the need of preliminary knowledge.
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