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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?</H1>
+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Mon Feb 21 10:36:15 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 21 February 2011 08:51, P. Christeas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">p_christ at hol.gr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think about switching from defaulting to installing on raw
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> partitions to lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installing on LVs like fedora does ?
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+</I>&gt;<i> I vote against that. (=to be enabled by default)
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+</I>&gt;<i> LVM is fine for &quot;enterprise&quot; setups, or better, installations where the
+</I>&gt;<i> (expert) admin will need to resize/move partitions in the future. But, for
+</I>&gt;<i> simple machines/users, the complexity of having LVM is IMHO not worth it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (remember also that on all *nix OSes, you can just add a partition, move some
+</I>&gt;<i> files like /usr/share/doc into it and then mount it on /usr/share/doc, thus
+</I>&gt;<i> freeing /usr of some space. No LVM, no virtualization, no ZFS required)
+</I>
+It's not as easy as LVM (need to use a partitionner).
+Diskdrake and the like will force you to umount the partitions to resize
+which may needs to boot on a rescue CD (eg for resizing / fs)
+It may not be possible ie:
+
+- you already have 4 primary partitions and none of them is an extended one.
+
+- If you've a small 8Go partition at start of the disk followed by one
+To partition
+ and you want to increase the first one, you're screwed without LVM
+ With LVM, you can just got some free space from anywhere (even another disk)
+
+What's more, one gains many features:
+
+- snapshots (yes snapshots for sql db backups are not for end users) but still
+ usefull for saving the whole system at one fixed time
+
+- you can extend some filesystems from space from other disks
+
+- it's easier to add space where needed when defaults partitions sizing proved
+ to be altered after some usage
+
+- one can live resize (w/o umouting/remounting)
+
+- one can use snapshots in order to rollback dangerous update
+ (eg: for trying initscript -&gt; systemd switch, ...)
+
+I think it brings many usefull features.
+Those who don't want LVM could still do manual partitionning.
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