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I believe that +</I>>><i> this +</I>>><i> > is achieved in Mandriva, because plf is greater than mdv. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That's abusing release tag and it work by pure chance ( ie, had the +</I>>><i> plf +</I>>><i> decided to be called the guillomovitch liberation front, it would +</I>>><i> not +</I>>><i> have worked ). And this is quite inflexible, since people will +</I>>><i> always +</I>>><i> have plf packages, leading to users adding some rpm in skip.list +</I>>><i> with a +</I>>><i> regexp. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This doesn't make much sense to treat tainted rpm as update to core, +</I>>><i> this is not the same notion. But we cannot express this in urpmi for +</I>>><i> the +</I>>><i> moment, as this would requires some way to say "if you need to +</I>>><i> install +</I>>><i> something, prefer this source rather than this one". +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We can imagine a priority system, or we can simply say that if there +</I>>><i> is +</I>>><i> the same rpm on 2 media, we ask to the user ( except this would +</I>>><i> requires +</I>>><i> IMHO a better system than the current path based one to see what is +</I>>><i> in a +</I>>><i> rpm, but that's a rather long proposal to make ). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> But you are right this another set of issues to solve for dual life +</I>>><i> packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> after sleeping on this, i've had this idea: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> why don't we rename packages in tainted? +</I>><i> keeping them in the same name, perhaps has issues with search +</I>><i> engines, (ie: +</I>><i> which version do you get?) +</I> + with search engine ? + I can see the issue for support, yes, but search engine, no + +><i> i proposed renaming packages in tainted,(but not the release tag). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> would it be a good compromise if we named packages: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <orig_packagename>-tainted-<version>-<release> ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> the benefit of this could be adding an Obsoletes and Provides on the +</I>><i> original +</I>><i> package with the identical version. +</I> + This could work, but I am not sure that a Obsoletes is required. + + One problem with this idea is that it will ask to user lots of + questions, and that's + something we should rather try to avoid ( any people who installed some + java rpm will + understand the issue ). + + But it has the advantage of not requiring anything special on BS while + providing the choice. + +><i> for building, i may have this solution: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> %tainted(%_optional_feature1 %optional_feature2 %optional_feature3) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> this would allow the buildbot to look for %tainted and if it does, +</I>><i> it could +</I>><i> rebuild it for tainted and add the particulars itself. this would +</I>><i> simplify the +</I>><i> whole plf/tainted thing easily. and since all 4 rpms are being built +</I>><i> at the +</I>><i> same time, you have no srpm problem either. +</I> + A simple %define would do the trick, so that doesn't bring much. + And we can keep a list of package that should be compiled twice, that's + not the biggest problem to solve. + +-- + Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002662.html">[Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002668.html">[Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2665">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2665">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2665">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2665">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |