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We devide those packages by the +</I>>><i> repo they get in, why do another thing? +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> From a build system point f view, this is easier to indeed treat that +</I>><i> like non-free, because there is no modification to do. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A better solution would indeed be to allow to have a tainted rpm in code +</I>><i> and tained, the core version being "cleaned" from litigious parts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> let's take a exemple, let's imagine someone has a patent on a fictional +</I>><i> video codec let's call it MCVC ( MegaCompressionVideoCodec ), and a army +</I>><i> of cloned lawyers from Hell that enforce the patent in USA. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's assume that Mplayer, as it support almost everything, support MCVC +</I>><i> in the current version. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> First solution : we move mplayer rpm to tainted, with support for MCVC. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Second solution : we compile mplayer in core without support for MCVC +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Third solution : we compile mplayer 2 times, once in tainted with MCVC, +</I>><i> another one to core without. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The first solution force us to place everything that requires mplayer to +</I>><i> tainted, as core must be self contained. So that mean various frontends, +</I>><i> firefox plugin, etc. This could be problematic if we place some +</I>><i> libraries in tainted. ( like freetype ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The second solution may slightly annoy people with lots of holidays +</I>><i> movies encoded in MCVC. And would render tainted basically useless. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The third solution is the one we use for PLF, but suffer from a few +</I>><i> technical issues : +</I>><i> - I am not sure the current system support it. In mdv, the 2 uploads +</I>><i> system are fully separated. Not here. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - We need to make sure that the binaries and source rpms are kept in +</I>><i> sync. If I upload a new version of mplayer, it will erase the source rpm +</I>><i> and use the new one. So if I built the tainted one, the srpm that was +</I>><i> used for the core rpm is no longer here. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - we need to make sure that the binaries rpms are in sync. If we upload +</I>><i> the core one, it would be nice to wait for the tainted one to be +</I>><i> uploaded too. Ie keep them in sync like we keep x86_64/i586 in sync. +</I>><i> But, only if the package is dual lived ( ie, there is rpms that will be +</I>><i> distributed only in tainted ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's a rather non trivial problem to solve. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And hopefully, we only have core and tainted ( ie, while non-free could +</I>><i> be added to the mix, there is no dual life issue with it ). +</I>><i> +</I> +If there are two packages, one in core and another in tainted, then +doesn't urpmi need a way to recognise that the tainted package is newer +than (an update to) the corresponding core package? I believe that this +is achieved in Mandriva, because plf is greater than mdv. + +Jim + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002656.html">[Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002659.html">[Mageia-dev] About panotools patent problem (and other problematic rpms) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2658">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2658">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2658">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2658">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |