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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 18 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 12:43 +0100, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Philippe DIDIER &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">philippedidier at laposte.net</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-02-18
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And what I talked about (in the other thread with the same name)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; was about the easiness to build and use different rpms with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; same spec having mdv versus plf suffixes...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And about it seems that we need to have different naming for Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (whether it's a &quot;normal&quot; or tainted rpm)
+</I>&gt;<i> I still don't see a reason for this. We devide those packages by the
+</I>&gt;<i> repo they get in, why do another thing?
+</I>
+&gt;<i>From a build system point f view, this is easier to indeed treat that
+</I>like non-free, because there is no modification to do.
+
+A better solution would indeed be to allow to have a tainted rpm in code
+and tained, the core version being &quot;cleaned&quot; from litigious parts.
+
+let's take a exemple, let's imagine someone has a patent on a fictional
+video codec let's call it MCVC ( MegaCompressionVideoCodec ), and a army
+of cloned lawyers from Hell that enforce the patent in USA.
+
+Let's assume that Mplayer, as it support almost everything, support MCVC
+in the current version.
+
+First solution : we move mplayer rpm to tainted, with support for MCVC.
+
+Second solution : we compile mplayer in core without support for MCVC
+
+Third solution : we compile mplayer 2 times, once in tainted with MCVC,
+another one to core without.
+
+
+The first solution force us to place everything that requires mplayer to
+tainted, as core must be self contained. So that mean various frontends,
+firefox plugin, etc. This could be problematic if we place some
+libraries in tainted. ( like freetype ).
+
+The second solution may slightly annoy people with lots of holidays
+movies encoded in MCVC. And would render tainted basically useless.
+
+The third solution is the one we use for PLF, but suffer from a few
+technical issues :
+- I am not sure the current system support it. In mdv, the 2 uploads
+system are fully separated. Not here.
+
+- We need to make sure that the binaries and source rpms are kept in
+sync. If I upload a new version of mplayer, it will erase the source rpm
+and use the new one. So if I built the tainted one, the srpm that was
+used for the core rpm is no longer here.
+
+- we need to make sure that the binaries rpms are in sync. If we upload
+the core one, it would be nice to wait for the tainted one to be
+uploaded too. Ie keep them in sync like we keep x86_64/i586 in sync.
+But, only if the package is dual lived ( ie, there is rpms that will be
+distributed only in tainted ).
+
+That's a rather non trivial problem to solve.
+
+And hopefully, we only have core and tainted ( ie, while non-free could
+be added to the mix, there is no dual life issue with it ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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