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+ <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B>
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+<PRE>2011/2/1 Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm happy to report that magpie 1.110320 is now available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 11/01/24 16:42 +0100, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in my mdv-&gt;mageia conversion, i promised to gather the various scripts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm using to maintain the bulk of perl packages and provide them for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everyone to use.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so i'm pleased to announce magpie: MAGeia Perl Integration Easy
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> magpie now features a new command: checkout (alias co).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it is *not* meant to replace &quot;mgarepo co&quot;, it does in fact use mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> underneath. so what does this command add?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the possibility to check out in a given directory
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;$ magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron perl
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the fact that it will either check out *or* update the local check-out
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;if it already exists:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;$ magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron perl
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;# check-out if 1st run, update otherwise
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - finally, the possibility to dump a shell command to execute to change
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;directory in the fresh check-out:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;# add this in your ~/.bashrc
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;function cco() { eval $(magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron -q -s $*); }
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;# then, one can do a fresh checkout/update + cd by issuing:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;$ cco perl
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing revolutionary, but it saves some keystrokes here and there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in the future, i intend to make this command to accept a perl module to
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically check-out the matching package:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;$ magpie co Foo::Bar
+</I>Hm, for such seemingly trivial feature additions, wouldn't it make more sense
+to just implement it in repsys..?
+
+Seems like an approach with a bit high potensial of becoming hard to maintain
+and really becoming rrelevant...
+
+My 2 cents at least..
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per &#216;yviind
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+<PRE>On Wed, 02 Feb 2011, Per &#216;yvind Karlsen wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> 2011/2/1 Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i'm happy to report that magpie 1.110320 is now available.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 11/01/24 16:42 +0100, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; in my mdv-&gt;mageia conversion, i promised to gather the various scripts
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i'm using to maintain the bulk of perl packages and provide them for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; everyone to use.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; so i'm pleased to announce magpie: MAGeia Perl Integration Easy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; magpie now features a new command: checkout (alias co).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is *not* meant to replace &quot;mgarepo co&quot;, it does in fact use mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; underneath. so what does this command add?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - the possibility to check out in a given directory
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160;$ magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron perl
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - the fact that it will either check out *or* update the local check-out
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;if it already exists:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160;$ magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron perl
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160;# check-out if 1st run, update otherwise
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - finally, the possibility to dump a shell command to execute to change
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;directory in the fresh check-out:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160;# add this in your ~/.bashrc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160;function cco() { eval $(magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron -q -s $*); }
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160;# then, one can do a fresh checkout/update + cd by issuing:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160;$ cco perl
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nothing revolutionary, but it saves some keystrokes here and there.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in the future, i intend to make this command to accept a perl module to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; automatically check-out the matching package:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; &#160;$ magpie co Foo::Bar
+</I>&gt;<i> Hm, for such seemingly trivial feature additions, wouldn't it make more sense
+</I>&gt;<i> to just implement it in repsys..?
+</I>
+Jerome makes his scripts in perl. And mgarepo is in python. So it makes
+sense to distribute it separatly. And some of the features can still be
+implemented later in mgarepo if it appears they are useful to a lot of
+people ...
+
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+Next meeting will happen tonight on #mageia-dev at 20h UTC.
+
+Quick proposal for agenda ( the meeting must be quick ) :
+- review of the task distributed last week
+( <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/mageia-dev.2011-01-26-20.03.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/mageia-dev.2011-01-26-20.03.html</A> )
+- proposal on what should be imported in priority ( and distribution of
+the work )
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+Michael Scherer
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+ <B>Jerome Quelin</B>
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+<PRE>On 11/02/02 16:33 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Hm, for such seemingly trivial feature additions, wouldn't it make more sense
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to just implement it in repsys..?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jerome makes his scripts in perl. And mgarepo is in python. So it makes
+</I>&gt;<i> sense to distribute it separatly. And some of the features can still be
+</I>&gt;<i> implemented later in mgarepo if it appears they are useful to a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> people ...
+</I>
+more importantly, those trivial features are designed to be coupled
+later on. and this will be much easier to do if every action is
+available in a module of its own...
+
+eg, here are some other scripts that i have, intend to clean &amp; port to
+magpie subcommands:
+
+ - update a perl module to latest version without having to specify said
+ version. i already have sthg that works (for more than 2 years),
+ which means that to update a pkg in mandriva i used to do:
+ $ cooker perl-Foo-Bar &amp;&amp; refresh
+ (&quot;cooker&quot; command was the equivalent of &quot;magpie co&quot;)
+
+ - list all perl modules needing to be updated, grouped by core,
+ dual-lifed or regular modules. i used to do the following to know
+ which modules to update:
+ $ cpan-old
+
+ - order a group of packages to be rebuilt according to their build
+ requires. this allowed me to rebuild ~2400 perl packages for mageia
+ quite easily.
+
+now, the grand plan for magpie is to integrate all those commands &amp; then
+to create a new subcommand that would automatically:
+ - run cpan-old (magpie xxx to be created)
+ - sort them according to their buildrequires (magpie xxx to be
+ created)
+ - for each of them, check it out (magpie co)
+ - get latest version, update, build &amp; submit (magpie xxx to be
+ created)
+ - wait a bit if needed (magpie bswait)
+ - go back to step 2
+
+now, you do understand that even if perl allows me to seemlessly call
+various scripts written in whatever language (bash, python, etc), having
+all subcommands sanitized and available as module will make all the
+plumbing much more efficient, clean &amp; maintainable.
+
+oh - another thing. had i decided not to clean my collection of scripts
+and publish them as a perl module, those scripts would still sit on my
+computer and would not be shared. and i definitely think that it's a
+good thing to share: it will allow people to help maintain perl packages
+(and thus reducing my workload), not counting the fact that it may be
+useful for other distributions too (*cough* mandriva *cough*).
+
+hoping to clarify the rationale of magpie,
+j&#233;r&#244;me
+--
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jquelin at gmail.com</A>
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+As promised last week during the packagers meeting, here is a wiki page
+dedicated to the AppStream project.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=appstream">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=appstream</A>
+
+Please take a look at the list of &quot;things to do&quot;, maybe there's something some
+of us can work on ?
+
+Here is a an extract :
+===================================================
+Tasks that can already start
+ * improve packagekit's urpmi back-end (see the feature matrix :
+<A HREF="http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html">http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html</A>)
+ * begin work on making the Ubuntu Software Center work on mageia, with
+Micha&#235;l Vogt's (main developer of the USC) and Richard Hugues' (packagekit)
+help
+ * start creating the appdata.xml files in repositories, based on metadata
+extracted from the .desktop files. It won't be complete yet but it would be
+useful to have the production chain already in place, and mageia-app-db could
+use this information to differentiate applications from other packages (it's
+based on a fixed list at the moment). See
+<A HREF="http://gitorious.org/appstream/resources/blobs/master/appdata.xsd">http://gitorious.org/appstream/resources/blobs/master/appdata.xsd</A>
+ * adapt urpmi so that it downloads those metadata on the client system
+when adding or updating media
+===================================================
+
+The metadata part (appdata.xml) is one of the most important things. All
+distributions present at the Nuremberg meeting agreed to try to have the chain
+of production and the appdata.xml file produced in the next 2 or 3 months. It
+would be great if we did it in time (yeah, I know, we also have a distribution
+to build :)). And as a side benefit, I could use the information contained in
+the appdata.xml file in mageia-app-db :)
+
+Cheers
+
+Samuel Verschelde
+</PRE>
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