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+ <B>Dick Gevers</B>
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+ <I>Tue Feb 1 01:35:36 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:15:36 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
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+&gt;<i>Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 &#224; 21:49 +0000, Dick Gevers a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:18:25 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;The problem is not leaking the key, it is about cryptographic attacks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;about older keys.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;If in 10 years, there is some technology that allows people to get our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;private key by bruteforce on the public one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can never ever obtain the private key from the public one, that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> impossible. It can only be compromised if someone looses the private key
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> plus the password is cracked.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Some secure systems have been seen compromised ( like
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,">http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,</A> who explain how the whole SSL
+</I>&gt;<i>business was compromised 2 years ago, or see the GSM being cracked at
+</I>&gt;<i>this year 27C3 ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>And Debian also got ride of older vulnerable gpg keys ( see
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html</A> and
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html</A> ),
+</I>&gt;<i>so I would not be so optimistic about the &quot;never&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Technically, MD5 should not have been reversible, but see how easy it is
+</I>&gt;<i>using a rainbow table. Granted, that's a 20 year protocol, but that's
+</I>&gt;<i>still widely used in lots of software.
+</I>
+Sorry, but I am not convinced: the gpg key we are talking about consists of
+2 parts: the private key is separate from the public key, or signing key.
+The signing key is a separate or subkey and does not contain any part of the
+private key. So you can throw any amount of computing power at it, but
+there is nothing inside the public key that will enable the rebuilding of
+the private key from it.
+
+Ciao,
+=Dick Gevers=
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