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+ <B>Motoko-chan</B>
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+ <I>Mon Jan 31 05:16:36 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 01/30/2011 07:16 PM, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> So I propose that we use two keys :
+</I>&gt;<i> - We sign all packages from all repositories using only one key. This
+</I>&gt;<i> key is stored on the buildsystem. We can call it <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">packages at mageia.org.</A>
+</I>Sounds good to me.
+
+&gt;<i> - We have an other key, that we call <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">board at mageia.org.</A> This key is
+</I>&gt;<i> not used on any online server, and is supposed to never be changed,
+</I>&gt;<i> and should not be compromised. Only a few people have a copy of this
+</I>&gt;<i> key (some people from board ?), kept on a usb key hidden somewhere, but
+</I>&gt;<i> not on their laptop or any computer with internet connection. This key
+</I>&gt;<i> is used to sign the key <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">packages at mageia.org</A> (and revoke it if needed),
+</I>&gt;<i> and other official keys of the project, but never used for anything
+</I>&gt;<i> else (not for receiving encrypted messages). And the signature is
+</I>&gt;<i> sent on public keyservers.
+</I>If possible, using a split key so that no single person can revoke a
+signature or sign a key would be useful. This would prevent attacks
+where an individual might be tricked into signing an attacker's key. It
+would require multiple people to be tricked or have their systems
+compromised to have that key compromised.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - We add the <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">board at mageia.org</A> public key inside the urpmi package.
+</I>&gt;<i> We change urpmi so that it refuses to use any key which has not been
+</I>&gt;<i> signed by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">board at mageia.org.</A> And urpmi should frequently update the
+</I>&gt;<i> keys it is using from public keyservers to check that its signature
+</I>&gt;<i> from board@ has not been revoked (or that the key self signature has
+</I>&gt;<i> not been revoked).
+</I>What about third-party repositories, like PLF is to Mandriva? Making
+that change would require that each of those repository owners have
+their key signed to work with the urpmi framework. This could either
+mean the death of urpmi for managing packages, diluting the trust of the
+board@ key, or discouraging outside contributions.
+
+What if urpmi automatically trusts packages signed with a key signed by
+board@ and prompt on the first install of a package that is signed by a
+different key? The yum tool used by Fedora, RHEL, and CentOS works very
+well by prompting on new keys.
+
+
+&gt;<i> - In case we think the packages@ key may have been compromised, or is
+</I>&gt;<i> too old, or we want to change it for any other reason, we revoke the
+</I>&gt;<i> key, and/or revoke the signature from board@ so that it is no
+</I>&gt;<i> longer accepted by urpmi. We create a new key, we sign it with
+</I>&gt;<i> the board@ key and we can start to use this new key.
+</I>Sounds good. I'd almost suggest a new packages signing key for each new
+release that is valid for the supported life of the release plus one
+year. It's a bit more work, but would reduce the damage a key leak would
+cause. Unfortunately, this would bring back the problems of re-signing
+packages when they are turned into a release.
+
+ - Michael
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