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It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> >>> but not before. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> >>> have these macros at all. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> What do other people think? +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> If not having those macros means we can't compile mdv SRPMS on mageia, then +</I>><i> >> I'd prefer we keep it. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > then keep them forever ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Because for one, mdkversion should have disappeared when the suffix was changed, +</I>><i> > something like 5 years ago. And the fact we still rely on it is not a good sign. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > More ever, even on Mandriva, most of them do not make much sense. Most of the software +</I>><i> > are not backported ( as the usage of the macros is mainly for stuff replaced +</I>><i> > by filetrigger ), and they are never cleaned. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > On the file trigger side, we have most of the macros going back to 2009.0, where we +</I>><i> > can't backport anything on the BS. And 2010.0 for the trigger for web application, and +</I>><i> > I do not think we backport them usually ( as people barely see the value of packaging +</I>><i> > them... ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So I think we will not have much problem, except this force us to do more cleaning. +</I>><i> > Cleaning that obviously didn't happened before, as we are needing to do it now. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So drop it, have more generic macros, and smarter policy. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem is not backports IMO, it is building 3rdparty src.rpm or old +</I>><i> src.rpm on Mageia (i.e. forward-porting), which won't work if we do not +</I>><i> have %mdkversion. +</I> +We could have the macro in a specific rpm. This way, it would be easier +to find when we need them ( ie searching on BuildRequires ) so we can +expect what is needed, and we could more easily rebuild and update if we +need to change the macros ( like, if they change on mandriva level ). + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002314.html">[Mageia-dev] [Announce] Rejection of submission with missing dependencies +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |