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+ <B>Michael scherer</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jan 21 16:14:39 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:06:21AM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 21 January 2011 00:01, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Shipping binary jar given by upstream tarball cause trouble because you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 1) cannot patch them in case of bug
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2) cannot see how and what was compiled
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That's not very free software friendly, and I think we should refuse
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've already seen while trying to package java apps, a jar being shipped,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but sources not available anywhere on the internet, except after
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; searching for a few hours on an old website on archive.org with broken
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; link to the sources zip, and developers not aware of the issue, because
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; they never tried to find the sources, and always used this binary .jar
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; they found on a random web site.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And they never though about security...
+</I>
+Security is not a problem , it is java, no null pointer exception /o\.
+
+But that's not only security, there is simply bugs that happen, and API
+problem ( that IMHO happens more often than security issue ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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