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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael scherer at 17/01/11 08:40 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:32:24PM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 11:26:54, Angelo Naselli a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In data domenica 16 gennaio 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;%if %mdkversion &lt; x&quot; to fail to build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but not before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I believe you're right at the moment, now that we're importing things,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but after the very first time, starts becoming nonsense since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i believe we're going to work on our packages distro per distro not taking
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> every time srpms from mandriva as we're doing now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, it may be a na&#239;ve hope, but I thought I could maintain the same spec file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for Mandriva and Mageia for my packages. It's not just a matter of importing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SRPMS from Mandriva to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Given the fact that rpm5 is drifting away from the usage of %mkrel for using %distepoch,
+</I>&gt;<i> I truly doubt this will happen.
+</I>
+I think the mkrels will stay for a while tho' (for ease of backporting)
+so I think we'll have some &quot;breathing space&quot; in this regard. I suspect
+that once all the wrinkles are ironed out, that we'll also go down the
+RPM5 route (which will hopefully be easier for us then), in which case
+the distepoch will likely become used by us too.
+
+Hard to say exactly what'll happen in the future, but it's at least
+semi-likely.
+
+Col
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