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+ +Notice changing this is not only about the rpm itself, MDV is part of +the software and changing is not an easy task. +Also the software is provided (at time, and until we do not redo ours) +by Mandriva and has been upload to CPAN under this name. + +So I am favor to import it with this name (we didn't rename RPM because +it mean RedHat Package Manager...). + +Does everyone agree with that ? + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20110117/a0a58cb5/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002189.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2188">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2188">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2188">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2188">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002189.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002189.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..92f7f8370 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002189.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinr0Umusy3gPhn-UTuQQsmboJdAoTG%3D%3DdfuT3Yg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002188.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002190.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinr0Umusy3gPhn-UTuQQsmboJdAoTG%3D%3DdfuT3Yg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 02:34:24 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002188.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002190.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2189">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2189">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2189">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2189">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 1/16/11, Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> So I am favor to import it with this name (we didn't rename RPM because +</I>><i> it mean RedHat Package Manager...). +</I>><i> +</I> +At the risk of being called pedantic, RPM _now_ stands for "RPM +Package Manager" in all its GNU recursive acronym goodness (GNU's Not +Unix, WINE Is Not an Emulator, etc.) for precisely the reason you +raise, so people would not use/drop it because of the RedHat name. + +Where MDK or drak is part of the application name (and hence the +package name), it should not be changed because that is its name and +Mandriva did, in fact, create it. When Mageia writes its own +applications (mageiahelp, diskmagia, mageiasound) or forks the +MDK/drak application (and starts separate, non-cooperative +development), then change the name. Otherwise, it might be seen as if +we are trying to hide something if only the name appears to change +just to obscure the Mandriva origins.. + +For items that are simply "branded", those names should be changed, +but not necessarily in the first Mageia release unless copyrighted +items are involved. + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002188.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002190.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2189">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2189">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2189">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2189">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002190.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002190.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..934742fbb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002190.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%09name&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117021714.GH10402%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002189.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002197.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%09name&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117021714.GH10402%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 03:17:15 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002189.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002197.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2190">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2190">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2190">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2190">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>* Hoyt Duff (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>) wrote: +><i> On 1/16/11, Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So I am favor to import it with this name (we didn't rename RPM because +</I>><i> > it mean RedHat Package Manager...). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At the risk of being called pedantic, RPM _now_ stands for "RPM +</I>><i> Package Manager" in all its GNU recursive acronym goodness (GNU's Not +</I>><i> Unix, WINE Is Not an Emulator, etc.) for precisely the reason you +</I>><i> raise, so people would not use/drop it because of the RedHat name. +</I> +Thanks for the explanation... + +But it was not the case when Mandrake started to use it, and neither +when Mandrake became Mandriva (The new name appeared with the rpm5 +fork, and IIRC this fork appeared after Mandriva). + +><i> +</I>><i> Where MDK or drak is part of the application name (and hence the +</I>><i> package name), it should not be changed because that is its name and +</I>><i> Mandriva did, in fact, create it. When Mageia writes its own +</I>><i> applications (mageiahelp, diskmagia, mageiasound) or forks the +</I>><i> MDK/drak application (and starts separate, non-cooperative +</I>><i> development), then change the name. Otherwise, it might be seen as if +</I>><i> we are trying to hide something if only the name appears to change +</I>><i> just to obscure the Mandriva origins.. +</I> +The problem is not only the name, but also all technical a rename can +cause. The 'MDV' is part of perl module name, then it create +dependencies between them. Changing this will force us to immediatelly +patch some applications. + +There is way to create compatibility (Rafael Garcia-Suarez and I did it +to rename MDK to MDV in past). +I am just afraid by all breakage this can cause. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20110117/7f716121/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002189.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002197.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2190">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2190">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2190">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2190">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002191.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002191.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b9e908af6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002191.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101162145.39754.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002200.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002192.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101162145.39754.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">thomas at btspuhler.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 05:45:39 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002200.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002192.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2191">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2191">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2191">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2191">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Saturday, January 15, 2011 04:07:56 pm Anssi Hannula wrote: +><i> Hi all! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>I am for having it to remain compatible +><i> +</I>><i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> but not before. +</I>I think we should have compatibility as much as possible. This would make it +much easier to use the same spec on both disti's. We don't need to create more +work than really needed. +><i> +</I>><i> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> have these macros at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do other people think? +</I> +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002200.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002192.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2191">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2191">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2191">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2191">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002192.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002192.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7aacd050f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002192.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101162151.01170.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002191.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002193.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101162151.01170.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">thomas at btspuhler.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 05:51:01 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002191.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002193.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2192">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2192">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2192">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2192">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Saturday, January 15, 2011 04:07:56 pm Anssi Hannula wrote: +><i> Hi all! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> but not before. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> have these macros at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do other people think? +</I> +There is also an %exclude in the file section that doesn't work on mageia + +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002191.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002193.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2192">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2192">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2192">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2192">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002193.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002193.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1e4de629b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002193.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinXKbLhNqiEEcZAjUp%3DGsWvySm7EjT6f37HRxiz%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002192.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002194.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Dexter Morgan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinXKbLhNqiEEcZAjUp%3DGsWvySm7EjT6f37HRxiz%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">dmorganec at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 08:05:24 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002192.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002194.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2193">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2193">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2193">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2193">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Thomas Spuhler <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On Saturday, January 15, 2011 04:07:56 pm Anssi Hannula wrote: +</I>>><i> Hi all! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>>><i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>>><i> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>>><i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>>><i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>>><i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>>><i> but not before. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>>><i> have these macros at all. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What do other people think? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is also an %exclude in the file section that doesn't work on mageia +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Thomas +</I>><i> +</I> +no this doesn't work with latest rpm, in mageia AND in mandriva. +Fom rpm devs POV, this is now how it should work +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002192.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002194.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2193">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2193">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2193">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2193">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002194.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002194.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..64110c39c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002194.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Python%20Packaging%20Policy&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117082156.GF1530%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002193.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002207.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Python%20Packaging%20Policy&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117082156.GF1530%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 09:21:56 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002193.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002207.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2194">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2194">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2194">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2194">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 06:15:52PM +0100, philippe makowski wrote: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I though that I can find more time to work on this week end, but +</I>><i> unfortunately it was not the case. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The Mandriva doc is really not a good starter +</I>><i> (<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy</A>) +</I> +That's just a draft, but as the one that wrote the draft, could I +know what is wrong with what was written so far ? + +><i> so I propose to use the Fedora one +</I>><i> (<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python</A>) with some cleaning. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Can we provide same macros as in In Fedora 13 and greater ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do you see any major problem with the Fedora policy ? +</I> +First they make plan for having more than one version of python, something +that I always told I will not do since no one stepped to do much to help +on the transition. In short, as long the python team will in practice be only me +( and in practice, I mean "people who effectivly commit" ), we will have only 1 supported +version of the stack. +( I consider python 3 to be a different language, because of the +source level incompatibility ). + +There is also the issue on bytecompilation ( <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484</A> ). +I have exposed there the various problem, and apart from explaining +that the solution I chosed was not better than the other, no one gave a compeling +argument into one or the others alternatives. + +Finally, a vast part of the policy is handling 2to3, a topic that we didn't discuss +at all, and I would not be confortable to adopt it without first looking at it and +discussing it. + +Not to mention that our policy draft speak of thing they do not include +( like naming policy, for a start ). + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002193.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002207.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2194">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2194">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2194">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2194">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002195.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002195.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dd791a623 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002195.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117083808.GG1530%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002207.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002196.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117083808.GG1530%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 09:38:08 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002207.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002196.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2195">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2195">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2195">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2195">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 01:19:29AM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +><i> Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi all! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> > 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> > "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> > most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> > those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> > little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> > but not before. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not +</I>><i> > have these macros at all. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > What do other people think? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If not having those macros means we can't compile mdv SRPMS on mageia, then +</I>><i> I'd prefer we keep it. +</I> +then keep them forever ? + +Because for one, mdkversion should have disappeared when the suffix was changed, +something like 5 years ago. And the fact we still rely on it is not a good sign. + +More ever, even on Mandriva, most of them do not make much sense. Most of the software +are not backported ( as the usage of the macros is mainly for stuff replaced +by filetrigger ), and they are never cleaned. + +On the file trigger side, we have most of the macros going back to 2009.0, where we +can't backport anything on the BS. And 2010.0 for the trigger for web application, and +I do not think we backport them usually ( as people barely see the value of packaging +them... ). + +So I think we will not have much problem, except this force us to do more cleaning. +Cleaning that obviously didn't happened before, as we are needing to do it now. + +So drop it, have more generic macros, and smarter policy. + +For example, we do use it to wrap %_webapp_postun. We can simply undefine the macro +when we want to have it removed, and define to nothing when is it not used, +rather than using %if / %macro / %endif ( ie, 3 lignes instead of 1 ), and 2 edition of specs +instead of 1, when the macro will do a error. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002207.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002196.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2195">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2195">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2195">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2195">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002196.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002196.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7b276fe62 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002196.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117084006.GH1530%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002195.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002203.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117084006.GH1530%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 09:40:06 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002195.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002203.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2196">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2196">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2196">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2196">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:32:24PM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +><i> Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 11:26:54, Angelo Naselli a écrit : +</I>><i> > In data domenica 16 gennaio 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula ha scritto: +</I>><i> > > Hi all! +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>><i> > > 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>><i> > > "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>><i> > > most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>><i> > > those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>><i> > > little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>><i> > > but not before. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I believe you're right at the moment, now that we're importing things, +</I>><i> > but after the very first time, starts becoming nonsense since +</I>><i> > i believe we're going to work on our packages distro per distro not taking +</I>><i> > every time srpms from mandriva as we're doing now. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, it may be a naïve hope, but I thought I could maintain the same spec file +</I>><i> for Mandriva and Mageia for my packages. It's not just a matter of importing +</I>><i> SRPMS from Mandriva to Mageia. +</I> +Given the fact that rpm5 is drifting away from the usage of %mkrel for using %distepoch, +I truly doubt this will happen. + +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002195.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002203.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2196">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2196">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2196">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2196">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002197.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002197.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1418f1f65 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002197.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimZznWwPVgSfwx6qPWt9_rYTVdWNY8RtPd6X2--%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002190.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002198.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimZznWwPVgSfwx6qPWt9_rYTVdWNY8RtPd6X2--%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 09:49:24 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002190.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002198.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2197">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2197">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2197">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2197">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:07, Olivier Thauvin +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> I am supposed to be the maintainers of this software, required by base +</I>><i> of the system: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> perl-MDV-Distribconf-4.02-1mdv2010.1.src.rpm +</I>><i> perl-MDV-Packdrakeng-1.13-5mdv2010.1.src.rpm +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should we remove the 'MDV' part ? +</I> +Why should we? + +As I understand it, this is the name of a specific package of Perl +stuff; at most, the "MDV" part is only a name tag (it's not a +registered trademark, barely a brand either) and it shows some +inheritance from MandrakeSoft/Mandriva days, because that's how the +software package was named at the start. + +As Hoyt points out, it would be more relevant to change the tag +if/when/once this code base grows independantly from the original one. + +If that is to be expected, yes, that may be good enough a reason to +rename; but that may not be really urgent for this release? + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002190.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002198.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2197">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2197">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2197">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2197">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002198.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002198.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bf37cfc25 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002198.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117094406.GB20740%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002197.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002199.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name</H1> + <B>Michael scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3C20110117094406.GB20740%40sisay.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 10:44:06 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002197.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002199.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2198">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2198">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2198">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2198">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 09:49:24AM +0100, Romain d'Alverny wrote: +><i> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:07, Olivier Thauvin +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > I am supposed to be the maintainers of this software, required by base +</I>><i> > of the system: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > perl-MDV-Distribconf-4.02-1mdv2010.1.src.rpm +</I>><i> > perl-MDV-Packdrakeng-1.13-5mdv2010.1.src.rpm +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Should we remove the 'MDV' part ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why should we? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I understand it, this is the name of a specific package of Perl +</I>><i> stuff; at most, the "MDV" part is only a name tag (it's not a +</I>><i> registered trademark, barely a brand either) and it shows some +</I>><i> inheritance from MandrakeSoft/Mandriva days, because that's how the +</I>><i> software package was named at the start. +</I> +We could also find a recursive acronym : + +MDV -> MDV Distribution Versionning ? + +><i> As Hoyt points out, it would be more relevant to change the tag +</I>><i> if/when/once this code base grows independantly from the original one. +</I> +Well, we can also ( and I think we should ) aim for keeping compatibility, +and in fact, try to avoid forking too much. We can and should collaborate. + +Now, if some software are dropped ( or about to be ) by upstream, yes, forking +would be a alternative. +-- +Michael Scherer +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002197.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002199.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2198">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2198">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2198">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2198">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002199.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002199.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..38daae13e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002199.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimGF8qYs66cQuOO5q0SPhzNJkkVnLAbKUiJpOV3%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002198.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002200.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name</H1> + <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimGF8qYs66cQuOO5q0SPhzNJkkVnLAbKUiJpOV3%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 11:35:11 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002198.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002200.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2199">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2199">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2199">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2199">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 17 January 2011 10:44, Michael scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +>><i> As Hoyt points out, it would be more relevant to change the tag +</I>>><i> if/when/once this code base grows independantly from the original one. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, we can also ( and I think we should ) aim for keeping compatibility, +</I>><i> and in fact, try to avoid forking too much. We can and should collaborate. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now, if some software are dropped ( or about to be ) by upstream, yes, forking +</I>><i> would be a alternative. +</I> +Btw, we'll have to take a decision about perl-URPMI & urpmi +There've been quite a lot of commits from pok. +We've two alternatives: stick with perl-URPM & urpmi from pre-rpm5 +or sync with mdv. +I'm not sure pok has kept compatilibity with rpm-4 and if there'has been +any other damage. +eg: if I remember right, pok removed my perl-URPM workaround for rpm segfaulting +because he fixed it in rpm5... + +I think anssi & me (& maybe C. Fergeau if he wants to work with +Mageia, I forgot to ask him +last time I saw him) should be able to maintain those. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002198.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002200.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2199">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2199">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2199">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2199">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002200.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002200.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bf5167844 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002200.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3C201101170711.30387.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002199.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002191.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name</H1> + <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20to%20do%20for%20software%20having%20MDV/Mandriva%20in%20name&In-Reply-To=%3C201101170711.30387.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name">thomas at btspuhler.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 15:11:30 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002199.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002191.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2200">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2200">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2200">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2200">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Monday, January 17, 2011 02:44:06 am Michael scherer wrote: +><i> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 09:49:24AM +0100, Romain d'Alverny wrote: +</I>><i> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:07, Olivier Thauvin +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > I am supposed to be the maintainers of this software, required by base +</I>><i> > > of the system: +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > perl-MDV-Distribconf-4.02-1mdv2010.1.src.rpm +</I>><i> > > perl-MDV-Packdrakeng-1.13-5mdv2010.1.src.rpm +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Should we remove the 'MDV' part ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Why should we? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > As I understand it, this is the name of a specific package of Perl +</I>><i> > stuff; at most, the "MDV" part is only a name tag (it's not a +</I>><i> > registered trademark, barely a brand either) and it shows some +</I>><i> > inheritance from MandrakeSoft/Mandriva days, because that's how the +</I>><i> > software package was named at the start. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We could also find a recursive acronym : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MDV -> MDV Distribution Versionning ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > As Hoyt points out, it would be more relevant to change the tag +</I>><i> > if/when/once this code base grows independantly from the original one. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, we can also ( and I think we should ) aim for keeping compatibility, +</I>><i> and in fact, try to avoid forking too much. We can and should collaborate. +</I> +I agree. Both Disti's do not have enough marketing resources and working +together could help that others may do a Mandriva/Mageia package such as +Skype, etc. +All we find is Fedora, Ubuntu, Suse and of course Debian + +><i> +</I>><i> Now, if some software are dropped ( or about to be ) by upstream, yes, +</I>><i> forking would be a alternative. +</I> +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002199.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002191.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2200">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2200">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2200">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2200">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002201.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002201.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..27964bb63 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002201.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20RPM%20Spec%20File%20Syntax&In-Reply-To=%3C1295274833.24697.26.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002206.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002202.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20RPM%20Spec%20File%20Syntax&In-Reply-To=%3C1295274833.24697.26.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 15:33:53 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002206.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002202.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2201">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2201">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2201">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2201">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 15 janvier 2011 à 11:08 +0100, Remy CLOUARD a écrit : + +><i> Patches must be named in a very explicit manner to make it very clear to +</I>><i> what version it was originally applied. To that end, a patch needs to +</I>><i> follow the convention of +</I>><i> [package_name]-[version]-[description].patch: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * [package_name] is the name of the package it applies against, such +</I>><i> as 'shadow-utils' or 'gnupg' +</I>><i> * [version] is the version of the program this patch was developed +</I>><i> against, such as 1.0. The name of the patch should not change, even +</I>><i> when it is rediffed, because the version allow to see in a blink since +</I>><i> when this patch has been there. If you happen to see a patch that does +</I>><i> not apply anymore, and rediff it, ask the package maintainer if it has +</I>><i> been sent upstream, and why it hasn’t been merged, and send it +</I>><i> upstream if you think it should be merged. +</I>><i> * [description] is a short description of the patch's purpose. +</I> +I would rather use comments for that : + +1) saying the patch was sent upstream, with url , or date of sending the +mail ( possibily who ) + +2) if not sent upstream, say clearly "not upstreamable because foo" + +3) if coming from upstream, link to the commit upstream + +And for people who want to sent upstream patch, iptutils is full of +patch to comment ( and so are lots of packages ). +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002206.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002202.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2201">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2201">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2201">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2201">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002202.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002202.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6c68eed34 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002202.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimk7Y-o9VCANgfQ%3DD%3D%2BtcKhURWKDNXx1RYVrAm1%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002201.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002208.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?</H1> + <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Will%20this%20work%20for%20a%20build%20system%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimk7Y-o9VCANgfQ%3DD%3D%2BtcKhURWKDNXx1RYVrAm1%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 15:40:56 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002201.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002208.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2202">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2202">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2202">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2202">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 27 September 2010 18:17, Robert Xu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">robxu9 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Now, I don't know how Mandriva did its build system, but we will +</I>><i> ALWAYS need physical access to servers. If something goes so terribly +</I>><i> wrong that one has to reinstall the whole freaking OS, that's not +</I>><i> going to help Magiea unless we have access. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Personally, I like either the Koji build system or the openSuSE Build +</I>><i> Service; personally, the OBS sounds better to me, because it can +</I>><i> natively sign packages, submit request system, ACL, cross-compile, +</I>><i> etc. +</I>><i> But then again, that's just me, b/c I use a local instance at home and +</I>><i> I'm used to setting up the OBS from a minimal install. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've always had trouble setting up Koji... it feels less friendly to me. +</I> +For the record, koji (and mock under it) is tightly coupled to yum, +which makes harder to use with an urpmi based distro... +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002201.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002208.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2202">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2202">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2202">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2202">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002203.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002203.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ba6c91a41 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002203.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D34672B.6010800%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002196.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002205.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D34672B.6010800%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 16:58:35 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002196.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002205.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2203">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2203">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2203">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2203">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael scherer at 17/01/11 08:40 did gyre and gimble: +><i> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 12:32:24PM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +</I>>><i> Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 11:26:54, Angelo Naselli a écrit : +</I>>>><i> In data domenica 16 gennaio 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula ha scritto: +</I>>>>><i> Hi all! +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to +</I>>>>><i> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all? +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any +</I>>>>><i> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that +</I>>>>><i> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including +</I>>>>><i> those provided by any 3rd party packagers. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very +</I>>>>><i> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases, +</I>>>>><i> but not before. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I believe you're right at the moment, now that we're importing things, +</I>>>><i> but after the very first time, starts becoming nonsense since +</I>>>><i> i believe we're going to work on our packages distro per distro not taking +</I>>>><i> every time srpms from mandriva as we're doing now. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Well, it may be a naïve hope, but I thought I could maintain the same spec file +</I>>><i> for Mandriva and Mageia for my packages. It's not just a matter of importing +</I>>><i> SRPMS from Mandriva to Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Given the fact that rpm5 is drifting away from the usage of %mkrel for using %distepoch, +</I>><i> I truly doubt this will happen. +</I> +I think the mkrels will stay for a while tho' (for ease of backporting) +so I think we'll have some "breathing space" in this regard. I suspect +that once all the wrinkles are ironed out, that we'll also go down the +RPM5 route (which will hopefully be easier for us then), in which case +the distepoch will likely become used by us too. + +Hard to say exactly what'll happen in the future, but it's at least +semi-likely. + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002196.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002205.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2203">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2203">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2203">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2203">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002205.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002205.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3ac014340 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002205.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimSxakhCAnPOyw4SJkAp6f_uu8SBSKi7s1ws3ZT%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002203.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002206.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimSxakhCAnPOyw4SJkAp6f_uu8SBSKi7s1ws3ZT%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 18:23:55 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002203.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002206.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2205">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2205">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2205">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2205">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 17 January 2011 16:58, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote: +>><i> Given the fact that rpm5 is drifting away from the usage of %mkrel for using %distepoch, +</I>>><i> I truly doubt this will happen. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think the mkrels will stay for a while tho' (for ease of backporting) +</I>><i> so I think we'll have some "breathing space" in this regard. I suspect +</I>><i> that once all the wrinkles are ironed out, that we'll also go down the +</I>><i> RPM5 route (which will hopefully be easier for us then), in which case +</I>><i> the distepoch will likely become used by us too. +</I> +what for? +I would rather stick with other mainstream rpm-based distro and remain +with rpm.org + +><i> Hard to say exactly what'll happen in the future, but it's at least +</I>><i> semi-likely. +</I></PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002203.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002206.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2205">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2205">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2205">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2205">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002206.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002206.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ac14aba04 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002206.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101171945.24537.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002205.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002201.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Compatibility%3A%20%25mdkversion%20macro%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201101171945.24537.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 19:45:24 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002205.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002201.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2206">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2206">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2206">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2206">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op maandag 17 januari 2011 18:23:55 schreef Thierry Vignaud: +><i> On 17 January 2011 16:58, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >> Given the fact that rpm5 is drifting away from the usage of %mkrel for +</I>><i> >> using %distepoch, I truly doubt this will happen. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I think the mkrels will stay for a while tho' (for ease of backporting) +</I>><i> > so I think we'll have some "breathing space" in this regard. I suspect +</I>><i> > that once all the wrinkles are ironed out, that we'll also go down the +</I>><i> > RPM5 route (which will hopefully be easier for us then), in which case +</I>><i> > the distepoch will likely become used by us too. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> what for? +</I>><i> I would rather stick with other mainstream rpm-based distro and remain +</I>><i> with rpm.org +</I> +i would as well, however, it might be that rpm5 will become mainstream later +on. However, i do think we should agree on using rpm.org until such a time +that rpm5 is stable by other rpm-based distro's + +personally, i would like some new features, and i'm prepared to work on it; so +I might help with maintaining current rpm. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002205.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002201.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2206">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2206">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2206">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2206">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002207.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002207.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a98d95dac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002207.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Python%20Packaging%20Policy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikrHNt9X%2B%3DRW5hqLXshkhwX_wSpKzMgfKQC0LAv%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002194.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002195.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy</H1> + <B>philippe makowski</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Python%20Packaging%20Policy&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikrHNt9X%2B%3DRW5hqLXshkhwX_wSpKzMgfKQC0LAv%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy">makowski.mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 21:03:01 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002194.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002195.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/1/17 Michael scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 06:15:52PM +0100, philippe makowski wrote: +</I>>><i> Hi, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I though that I can find more time to work on this week end, but +</I>>><i> unfortunately it was not the case. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The Mandriva doc is really not a good starter +</I>>><i> (<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy</A>) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's just a draft, but as the one that wrote the draft, could I +</I>><i> know what is wrong with what was written so far ? +</I>><i> +</I>nothing except it is just a draft ;) + +>><i> so I propose to use the Fedora one +</I>>><i> (<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python</A>) with some cleaning. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Can we provide  same macros as in In Fedora 13 and greater ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Do you see any major problem with the Fedora policy ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> First they make plan for having more than one version of python, something +</I>><i> that I always told I will not do since no one stepped to do much to help +</I>><i> on the transition. In short, as long the python team will in practice be only me +</I>><i> ( and in practice, I mean "people who effectivly commit" ), we will have only 1 supported +</I>><i> version of the stack. +</I>><i> ( I consider python 3 to be a different language, because of the +</I>><i> source level incompatibility ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is also the issue on bytecompilation ( <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484</A> ). +</I>><i> I have exposed there the various problem, and apart from explaining +</I>><i> that the solution I chosed was not better than the other, no one gave a compeling +</I>><i> argument into one or the others alternatives. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Finally, a vast part of the policy is handling 2to3, a topic that we didn't discuss +</I>><i> at all, and I would not be confortable to adopt it without first looking at it and +</I>><i> discussing it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not to mention that our policy draft speak of thing they do not include +</I>><i> ( like naming policy, for a start ). +</I>><i> +</I>No problem, I understand perfectly +so let start with the Mandriva draft +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002194.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002195.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002208.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002208.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ac02262e2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002208.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20Mageia%3A%20implement%20bitorrent%20protocol%0A%20to%20allow%20updates%20download&In-Reply-To=%3C4D34AD3C.7000703%40arcor.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002202.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002209.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download</H1> + <B>Florian Hubold</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Proposal%20for%20Mageia%3A%20implement%20bitorrent%20protocol%0A%20to%20allow%20updates%20download&In-Reply-To=%3C4D34AD3C.7000703%40arcor.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download">doktor5000 at arcor.de + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 21:57:32 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002202.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002209.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2208">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2208">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2208">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2208">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am 13.01.2011 20:52, schrieb Michael Scherer: +><i> Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 à 20:21 +0100, Marcello Anni a écrit : +</I>>>>><i> and what's better than bittorrent protocol to use user +</I>>>>><i> available bandwith to do this? i would like to know: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And I do know that bittorrent was said to overload the routing +</I>><i> infrastructure of the internet ( more connections to keep, more routing, +</I>><i> etc ). Especially now that more and more networks are fragmented ( ie, +</I>><i> no more big /24 routing, the lack of ipv4 requires to redistribute small +</I>><i> part of the address space on various place ) +</I> +If really needed i can dig up some analysis about overall worldwide +traffic in relation to bittorrent, but i can already tell you that +mostly on any day some of the time bittorrent creates 50-60% +of worldwide traffic. + +So better not increase this, and i think it would also not be very +practical for the tracker, which would need to keep at some point +say 500.000 torrents (for every package in the distribution, +including multiple archs, debug packages and so on) +And then lets multiply this with three for three releases ...? + +No, i'm against it. I don't see what's wrong with the current system +as it is working well for those who configure it properly. + +Regards + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002202.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002209.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2208">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2208">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2208">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2208">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002209.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002209.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8c65c960e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002209.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20RPM%20Spec%20File%20Syntax&In-Reply-To=%3C4D34BA63.9010802%40arcor.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002208.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002210.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax</H1> + <B>Florian Hubold</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20RPM%20Spec%20File%20Syntax&In-Reply-To=%3C4D34BA63.9010802%40arcor.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax">doktor5000 at arcor.de + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 22:53:39 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002208.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002210.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2209">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2209">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2209">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2209">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am 15.01.2011 11:08, schrieb Remy CLOUARD: +><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Please review this page as it’s one of the most important one for the +</I>><i> beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet to be +</I>><i> imported). +</I> +I have one comment, or more of a question: Why is it that some time ago +there used to be this syntax as de-facto standard: + +%define name +Name: %name + +Never understood this, so i went with what seems the new standard, +which saves you at least 3 lines per spec and improving readability. + +So anyone can enlighten me why name, release and version had %defines? +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002208.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002210.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2209">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2209">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2209">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2209">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002210.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002210.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f10291537 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002210.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20RPM%20Spec%20File%20Syntax&In-Reply-To=%3C4D34BD88.40609%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002209.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002211.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20RPM%20Spec%20File%20Syntax&In-Reply-To=%3C4D34BD88.40609%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 23:07:04 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002209.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002211.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2210">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2210">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2210">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2210">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Florian Hubold at 17/01/11 21:53 did gyre and gimble: +><i> Am 15.01.2011 11:08, schrieb Remy CLOUARD: +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Please review this page as it’s one of the most important one for the +</I>>><i> beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet to be +</I>>><i> imported). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have one comment, or more of a question: Why is it that some time ago +</I>><i> there used to be this syntax as de-facto standard: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> %define name +</I>><i> Name: %name +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Never understood this, so i went with what seems the new standard, +</I>><i> which saves you at least 3 lines per spec and improving readability. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So anyone can enlighten me why name, release and version had %defines? +</I> +I think the general reason was that you quite often want to use %name in +other places too. e.g. Obsoletes: %name-redundant-old-subpackage + +Ditto for %version. + +While you can use these without %defining them (just by virtue of them +being the Name: or Version: etc., I think it's more declarative and +deterministic to define them. + +There could be other reasons too (e.g. update scripts?) and also just to +keep the critical things right at the top of the file for easy access. + +Other than that I can't think of any reasons. + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002209.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002211.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2210">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2210">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2210">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2210">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002211.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002211.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..921b5b4f9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/002211.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20RPM%20Spec%20File%20Syntax&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DZQQk5PexvRfm-7J75Ss6VnpPDApm6e56sv1Om%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002210.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax</H1> + <B>Per Øyvind Karlsen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20RPM%20Spec%20File%20Syntax&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DZQQk5PexvRfm-7J75Ss6VnpPDApm6e56sv1Om%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax">peroyvind at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jan 17 23:50:32 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002210.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2211">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2211">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2211">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2211">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/1/17 Florian Hubold <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>>: +><i> Am 15.01.2011 11:08, schrieb Remy CLOUARD: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Please review this page as it’s one of the most important one for the +</I>>><i> beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet to be +</I>>><i> imported). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have one comment, or more of a question: Why is it that some time ago +</I>><i> there used to be this syntax as de-facto standard: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> %define name +</I>><i> Name: %name +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Never understood this, so i went with what seems the new standard, +</I>><i> which saves you at least 3 lines per spec and improving readability. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So anyone can enlighten me why name, release and version had %defines? +</I>Legacy practice which got stuck with some... + +'Name: foo' will always define %{name} now (which has been the case for ages), +so there's no longer use in doing this anymore. +It mainly adds unnecessary obscurity and confusion, please just drop this. + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002210.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2211">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2211">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2211">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2211">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e17900fef --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,162 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 17 January 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>17 January 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jan 17 02:07:10 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 17 23:50:32 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 23<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="002189.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A><A NAME="2189"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002203.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? 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+</A><A NAME="2202"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002203.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2203"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002205.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2205"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002206.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2206"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002207.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A><A NAME="2207"> </A> +<I>philippe makowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002208.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download +</A><A NAME="2208"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002209.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2209"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002210.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2210"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002211.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2211"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jan 17 23:50:32 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 17 23:50:40 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110117/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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+</A><A NAME="2191"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002192.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2192"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002193.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2193"> </A> +<I>Dexter Morgan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002195.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2195"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002196.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2196"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002203.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2203"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002205.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2205"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002206.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2206"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002201.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2201"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002209.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2209"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002210.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2210"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002211.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2211"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002208.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download +</A><A NAME="2208"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002194.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A><A NAME="2194"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002207.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A><A NAME="2207"> </A> +<I>philippe makowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002190.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A><A NAME="2190"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002188.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A><A NAME="2188"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002189.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A><A NAME="2189"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002197.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A><A NAME="2197"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002198.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A><A NAME="2198"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002199.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A><A NAME="2199"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002200.html">[Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name +</A><A NAME="2200"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002202.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? 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+</A><A NAME="2191"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<!--0 01295239861- --> +<LI><A HREF="002192.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2192"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01295239861-01295247924- --> +<LI><A HREF="002193.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2193"> </A> +<I>Dexter Morgan +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01295252516- --> +<LI><A HREF="002194.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A><A NAME="2194"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01295252516-01295294581- --> +<LI><A HREF="002207.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy +</A><A NAME="2207"> </A> +<I>philippe makowski +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01295253488- --> +<LI><A HREF="002195.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2195"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01295253606- --> +<LI><A HREF="002196.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2196"> </A> +<I>Michael scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01295253606-01295279915- --> +<LI><A HREF="002203.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2203"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01295253606-01295279915-01295285035- --> +<LI><A HREF="002205.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2205"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01295253606-01295279915-01295285035-01295289924- --> +<LI><A HREF="002206.html">[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro? +</A><A NAME="2206"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01295274833- --> +<LI><A HREF="002201.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2201"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01295275256- --> +<LI><A HREF="002202.html">[Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system? +</A><A NAME="2202"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<!--0 01295297852- --> +<LI><A HREF="002208.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download +</A><A NAME="2208"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<!--0 01295301219- --> +<LI><A HREF="002209.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2209"> </A> +<I>Florian Hubold +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01295301219-01295302024- --> +<LI><A HREF="002210.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2210"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<!--1 01295301219-01295304632- --> +<LI><A HREF="002211.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax +</A><A NAME="2211"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +</UL> + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jan 17 23:50:32 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 17 23:50:40 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |