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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+ <I>Thu Jan 13 12:49:15 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Daniel Kreuter wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't agree with you at that point. I always take the tarball from
+</I>&gt;<i> eclipse.org &lt;<A HREF="http://eclipse.org">http://eclipse.org</A>&gt; (for eclipse) or netbeans.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://netbeans.org">http://netbeans.org</A>&gt; (for netbeans) instead of the one's of
+</I>&gt;<i> repository provided by the distro.
+</I>&gt;<i> The reason is quite simple, the one's mentioned above are newer than
+</I>&gt;<i> the one's in the repos (often, not always but everywhere i looked for
+</I>&gt;<i> it, it was so)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But there may be people who will first look in rpmdrake or urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> that's right, but not everybody.
+</I>
+Well, I didn't say *everybody*, I was referring to newer users who might
+actually do what we tell them to :-)
+
+The problem is that there is a very high probability that anyone who
+installs from an RPM will then install plugins directly. Given that, I
+would question even packaging the base product as an RPM.
+
+Then again, there's the concern about whether an RPM-provided package
+may provide something a tarball does not, or vice-versa. For example,
+the MDV Java RPMs play all sorts of games with /etc/alternatives and
+don't (I think) set environment variables like JAVA_HOME. This means
+that tarball installs of things like Ant need manual tweaking to work
+correctly with an RPM-based JDK. The RPM-based Ant has wrapper scripts
+which depend on the /etc/alternatives stuff and determine JAVA_HOME on
+the fly.
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