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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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+ <I>Thu Jan 13 00:33:20 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On mercredi 12 janvier 2011 at 23:54, Frank Griffin wrote :
+&gt;<i> Users of things like NetBeans and Eclipse are used to the mechanisms
+</I>&gt;<i> provided by those tools for managing plugin installation, and are not
+</I>&gt;<i> going to take kindly to having to use rpmdrake instead.
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+Well, I use eclipse everyday (arrive at work, start eclipse and close it at
+the end of day before leaving) but I don't like its trying to duplicate what
+package managers do better. I want to know what' installed on may computer,
+how and where.
+For years I used to grab the pre-build archives and manage their
+dependencies by hand. A few month ago, I decided to repackage those as rpms
+with proper dependencies between packages to have urpmi do the work for me.
+It was a little complicated to find in the features and packages where their
+dependencies were stored, to extract them automatically at package build.
+So I was able to split it in many sub-packages to be able to install only
+what I need.
+The only downside is that it is built from binary archives and not from
+source, but for my own use it does work well.
+
+Back to your remark, people who don't like to have eclipse installed via rpm
+simply won't. They will continue to download the tarball from eclipse.org
+and install the plugins they want, either from archives or update sites.
+They can also install only the platform from the rpm and, if the -
+configuration and -data options are properly added to eclipse startup, they
+will be able to install in their home dir the plugins they want using the
+update sites.
+
+I won't comment on maven as I don't know how it works (the last time I tried
+to build from source a program using maven I did not find what options I was
+supposed to give to the mvn command to have it built).
+
+--
+Renaud Michel
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