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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 12 23:54:48 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Renaud MICHEL wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or maybe, if the jar in the external dependency plugin is actually the same
+</I>&gt;<i> (or compatible) version as the on from the normal package maybe we could
+</I>&gt;<i> make a plugin package only containing the eclipse related files
+</I>&gt;<i> (plugin.properties) and creating a symlink to the system wide jar. But that
+</I>&gt;<i> mean that eclipse plugins, which are now frequently provided as single jar
+</I>&gt;<i> files, would need to be packaged as files and directories like in older
+</I>&gt;<i> eclipse releases.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I think we want to consider carefully before we try to replace complex
+existing plugin installation procedures in various products. This issue
+is also being discussed relative to Firefox in another thread.
+
+Users of things like NetBeans and Eclipse are used to the mechanisms
+provided by those tools for managing plugin installation, and are not
+going to take kindly to having to use rpmdrake instead. And in some
+cases, e.g. Maven, you don't have a choice - if Maven needs it and it
+isn't there, it will get it from repositories whether or not you have
+packaged a plugin as an RPM.
+
+At some point, you just give up and accept the fact that you can't
+reform the entire world. As more and more projects migrate to Maven,
+the problem (sort of) goes away. All of our suggestions here are
+basically trying to recreate what Maven does without requiring projects
+to use it.
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