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+ <B>Renaud MICHEL</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 12 22:41:42 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On mercredi 12 janvier 2011 at 17:45, Frank Griffin wrote :
+&gt;<i> In theory, the packager of such an application could create
+</I>&gt;<i> supplementary packages for the specific versions of included JARs and
+</I>&gt;<i> build them first from source. But for something like NetBeans or
+</I>&gt;<i> Eclipse, that's going to be a lot of work....
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+I don't know for netbeans (maybe it is the same as eclipse), but eclipse
+needs anyway all of its dependencies inside his own plugins directory, so it
+would anyway be hard to use other system installed jars.
+But the source of the required version could probably be included in the
+src.rpm of the requiring plugins and built/installed before them (but I
+actually have no idea how eclipse plugins are built from source).
+
+The problem is, many eclipse plugins (or plugins collections actually) have
+dependencies on the same libs (for example xalan and xerces) which they all
+provide in their zip archive. We cannot have them in each package that need
+them as it would create file conflicts between those packages.
+So we would need to create separate packages for those &quot;external
+dependencies plugins&quot;. They could be built from their own source (from the
+official project) and then the real plugins would depend on them.
+That would probably require a special naming convention for dependencies
+between plugins (as the package doesn't provide &quot;xalan&quot; but &quot;xalan as an
+eclipse plugin&quot;)
+
+Or maybe, if the jar in the external dependency plugin is actually the same
+(or compatible) version as the on from the normal package maybe we could
+make a plugin package only containing the eclipse related files
+(plugin.properties) and creating a symlink to the system wide jar. But that
+mean that eclipse plugins, which are now frequently provided as single jar
+files, would need to be packaged as files and directories like in older
+eclipse releases.
+
+What do you think?
+
+--
+Renaud Michel
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