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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 29 septembre 2011 20:55:43, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Am 29.09.2011 14:13, schrieb Olav Vitters:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:24:56AM +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; backports_testing, but it means that we would lose the current checking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that updates come from the 1/updates branch)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Long term I prefer more checks because I do make mistakes. But maybe lax
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as a temporary (&quot;a few weeks&quot;) solution until it uses the SQL database?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, is it really that necessary for a matter of some weeks to speed up
+</I>&gt;<i> backports opening? Shouldn't we care first that sustainability of Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> is ensured first?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not like backports candidates will lessen workload on QA, rather the
+</I>&gt;<i> opposite. That's my personal opinion.
+</I>
+Some genuine user needs can only be covered by backports per our policy, I
+don't see why we should wait more (already 4 months since the release of
+Mageia 1). QA team already said it's ready to test backports, and if we have
+difficulty we simply will find means to get more testers. Also, updates will
+still remain the priority.
+
+Opening backports media does not mean that we will start backporting
+everything. But a policy has been chosen, after a loooooooooong debate, and
+there seems to be a simple way to open those media to package submitting.
+
+Also, the sooner we have backports, the less there will be external third-
+party repos with all the problems (upgrade, support) that causes. There
+already are, don't let them too much space and rather invite their packagers
+to backport *inside* (as long as they stay within the policy of course).
+
+About Mageia's sustainability, we already are working to that (QA team is
+operational, package adoption campaign is undergoing...), and having backports
+media won't prevent us from continuing.
+
+Also, the &quot;few weeks&quot; is a really vague estimation, my guess is it risks to be
+rather months because sysadmins seem to have a big TODO list a little
+resources. That's why I'm proposing 2 &quot;technically simple&quot; ways to move
+forward.
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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