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This first choice could be made to be dma. This is something we can +</I>><i> change in the meta-task package (/etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, this would mean than any package requiring sendmail-command would +</I>><i> see dma first in the list. I don't know if it would be a good think or not. I +</I>><i> tend to think yes, because for standard users dma will be preferred whereas +</I>><i> experience admins will choose the MTA they want. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So if we had not an update to issue, this would be my choice. Suggest +</I>><i> sendmail-command and make sure that dma is preferred when there's an automatic +</I>><i> selection. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If what I say here makes sense, maybe in Mageia 1 msec could suggest dma and +</I>><i> in Cauldron sendmail-command, + we would alter meta-task ? If not, then let's +</I>><i> go for dma and forget my comments. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel +</I>><i> +</I> +I have a slightly different take on this +Note that +1) If we send emails to root and they aren't noticed and removed, they +will accumulate and eventually occupy a lot of disk space. As well, it +is evident that most users won't know what to make of much of msec's +messages. If a user sets an email address, local or remote, they are +presumably more likely to know what these messages mean. +Setting a no-email default for all levels is simpler than doing it +selectively by "level" + +2) dma is very small, only 64k, and if another MTA is installed, dma +lets the other handle the function. So users can install another MTA, +and dma will be ignored. If dma is always installed, then it will +always be available if another MTA has been installed and subsequently +uninstalled. + +3) In the longer term, it seems to me a good idea to have a local-only +MTA integrated in msec, as suggested by Frank. + +So I go for the proposed solution of +1) Changing the msec default to not send email by default + +but +2) making a requires for dma (instead of suggest), so that it is always +installed. + +and +3) If/when a local-only MTA is integrated in msec, we remove the +requires for dma. + +my 2 cents :) + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008478.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] msec (nail) can't send reports to local users accounts - require an MTA? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008481.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] msec (nail) can't send reports to local users accounts - require an MTA? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8480">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8480">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8480">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8480">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |