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+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+ <I>Fri Sep 23 04:16:26 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>on Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:37
+in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.devel
+Florian Hubold wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Am 22.09.2011 00:09, schrieb Luc Menut:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 21/09/2011 20:35, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> during validation of validation of msec/sectool update candidates,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a problem showed up: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But if we want security reports to be sent to local users if they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> specify so, how to proceed further?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> msec can work very well without sending these reports by email; all the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> security's reports are available in /var/log/security, and msec notifies the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> user about this at each time it runs, so sendmail is absolutely not mandatory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I think that msec shouldn't have a Requires on sendmail-command,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> eventually it can be a Suggest.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But perhaps we could/should change the configuration of msec to not send
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> email by default, by adding MAIL_WARN=no in /etc/security/msec/security.conf.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, to summarize, there happen to be multiple solutions here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. do NOT require an MTA, let users manually read reports from /var/log/security
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe even remove nail from msec Requires as it is currently non-functional.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also Luc's proposal cited above could be realized.
+</I>
+1a. Popup box (this sort of happens in KDE) or a &quot;write&quot; message to
+the tty that says, &quot;go read the logs&quot;.
+
+&gt;<i> 2. do require sendmail-command, which will pose a problem to users
+</I>&gt;<i> installing from the CLI, because they are presented with a choice:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One of the following packages is required:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1 dma
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 ssmtp
+</I>&gt;<i> 3 postfix
+</I>&gt;<i> 4 sendmail
+</I>&gt;<i> 5 msmtp
+</I>&gt;<i> Please make a selection:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Additionally this will force an MTA onto every default installation and every
+</I>&gt;<i> installation that currently has msec installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. do require dma, which is a rather minimal MTA, and delivers without
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration
+</I>&gt;<i> Please see <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2255#c36">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2255#c36</A> for details.
+</I>&gt;<i> This would also allow coexistence with an already-installed MTA, IIUC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. Try to fix nail, which is required by msec and so in every default installation,
+</I>&gt;<i> so that it is able to deliver mail by itself, without sendmail.
+</I>
+Impossible question but would that involve much work?
+
+&gt;<i> Please give your votes.
+</I>
+Anything that works is acceptable.
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+If you want to get fancy, offer a choice that includes
+&quot;none (will lose functionality)&quot;. Default to whatever
+MTA has already been selected, or dma if no previous
+selection has been made.
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