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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 19/09/11 15:27 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Not all people use PA.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We even have options in draksound in order to disable it...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hence we must still support the case were PA isn't around...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, but by the same token, turning off PA is obviously not part of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recommended config.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If people turn off PA, they have to expect a less integrated solution.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And it's not as if things don't work. It's just that their systems would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> require a little more configuration than before. But in turning off PA,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that's pretty much what they are signing up for anyway.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hence my desire not to fix this &quot;bug&quot; when it's already fixed in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> default setup.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But if this is a show stopper for more people, I will see what we can do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about reverting a change :-) ?
+</I>
+No, because it has the side affect of breaking sound from USB devices
+when booting with systemd!
+
+I probably should have noted it in the commit message but I did put a
+comment in the spec file (of course I probably should have mentioned it
+in this thread earlier too, but I guess I that because I just had it in
+my head, I assumed it was a given - silly me!).
+
+To explain further: alsa-utils has specific upstream-provided systemd
+units to do the volume save/restore, I very much wanted to use them
+rather than our home-made sound-scripts stuff.
+
+I've left the scripts themselves in place for sysvinit boots, but on
+systemd they are completely unused (I put in dummy units to ensure the
+sysvinit versions were not run). This means that the
+/var/lock/subsys/alsa file is never put in place and snd-usb-audio is
+never loaded due to the modprobe rule.
+
+This is why I removed it.
+
+We could of course go back to the sound-scripts solution, but I don't
+think it's really wise longer term.
+
+Col
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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+ PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>]
+ Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>]
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