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I have all my cauldron boxes bios time set +to spanish local time, and system time gets set to 2 hours earlier than +it should (GMT+1 + 1 other hour for summer time, I guess - I'll check +tomorrow sunday when we are again at winter time). And then ntpd does not +correct it. + +The ntpd problem is the same that that of sshd below. + +><i> >> - sshd is not started neither +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > had same issue with sshd +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is this not just a simple matter of enabling it? It starts fine here... +</I>><i> It may not have inherited the fact it's enabled in sysvinit properly, +</I>><i> but a simple "systemctl enable sshd.service" and a "systemctl start +</I>><i> sshd.service" should be enough. We perhaps want to setup a sshd.socket +</I>><i> file to allow on-demand loading however which is a better solution +</I>><i> overall for most systems with sshd. +</I>><i> +</I> +The problem is not enabling it, but that it was enabled under sysvinit +and it does not get started under systemd after the switch. Think of +an upgrade of mageia-1 to -2 when it is done. You end without remote access +and probably others not noticed for being less critical, or others +like iptables being disabled under syscint and becoming enabled under +systemd. That is why I thought that doing that compatibility thing +between chkconfig and systemctl is a difficult mess to solve... +in some point you get out of sync. So lets go systemd at all and +kill all compatibility. Adding a dozen xxx.service that call +/etc/init.d/xxx should not be difficult. Do it once 'manually' and +forget about trying to do automagically. + +And, btw, if sysvinit 'init' is killed, should it be time to move +all that /etc/init.d/xxx scripts somewhere else as systemd helpers ? + +One possible solution could be... +- let systemd parse also init.d, and run what is there (as it is now) +- kill from init.d all services that have a systemd replacement + (iptables vs iptables.service for example), and move scripts used + by systemd .services out of init.d. +so one service is on one and only place, and you have to know which +init system (chkconfig or systemctl) handles it. When full switch is +done, init.d would be empty. + +><i> >> - DM service is duplicated, one is dm.service and other prefdm.service +</I>><i> >> (latest is systemd native one). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Fixed in the lastest systemd package. +</I>><i> +</I> +But why do we need both dm.service and prefdm.service ? Or +networkmanager.service and NerworkManager.service ? Let's kill all +compatibility and start getting bug reports and things fixed... + +I know it is a bit hard, but IMHO its the only sane way. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009208.html">[Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009169.html">[Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |