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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+<PRE>Thorsten van Lil skrev 29.11.2011 15:44:
+&gt;<i> Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> system to consider it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry Nicolas - I would if I knew how, but unfortunately I am not a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packager nor am I a developer with intimate knowledge of Mageia - I am
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> simply a power user who enjoys testing the latest (cauldron) and giving
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> feedback.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah... and there it is...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is how most threads like this ends up...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting others to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it for you (unless you pay them)...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think that he is &quot;expecting others to do it&quot; for him.
+</I>
+Well, it wasn't directed only to Robert, hence the &quot;Many users...&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> As Robert Fox said:
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;All I am asking is that Mageia recognise the need for the end
+</I>&gt;<i> users to co-exist with their Mac / Winblows counterparts, and that
+</I>&gt;<i> certain software is unavoidable. Any efforts made to help get such
+</I>&gt;<i> software to work properly with our distribution would be considered
+</I>&gt;<i> positive.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We already do, as pointed out by Romain earlier in this thread.
+But it does not mean we have to bend over backvards to do it since
+we are first and foremost promoting open source.
+
+&gt;<i> So, if I understood him right, a how-to would be enough for him.
+</I>&gt;<i> Three possible solutions came to my mind, to solve this issue:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. We write a documentation for, which has to be translated in each
+</I>&gt;<i> language.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. We provide a get-teamviewer package (as for skype). I guess there
+</I>&gt;<i> would be a script in it, that does the needed steps? However, a packager
+</I>&gt;<i> would be needed for it, who build and maintain it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. We take care, that the provided Mandriva package on the Teamviewer
+</I>&gt;<i> website works properly in Mageia. Due to my limited knowledge I can't
+</I>&gt;<i> estimate the effort for that possible solution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well... &quot;We&quot; is still the above mentioned community, so someone still
+has to do the work...
+
+And in Roberts case he also stated he knows how to look things up on the
+net and figure things out.. so the next logical step then would
+be to document the findings, stick it on wiki, and voila...
+
+a member of the community (&quot;We&quot;) did the work, and the whole community
+can benefit from it. and &quot;We&quot; didn't even need to be a packager.
+
+and maintaining pages on the wiki is also valuable work for the
+community. so... many ways to help...
+
+--
+Thomas
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