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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+ <I>Tue Nov 29 14:51:42 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 29 November 2011 13:44, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> system to consider it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry Nicolas - I would if I knew how, but unfortunately I am not a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packager nor am I a developer with intimate knowledge of Mageia - I am
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> simply a power user who enjoys testing the latest (cauldron) and giving
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> feedback.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah... and there it is...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is how most threads like this ends up...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting others to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it for you (unless you pay them)...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is a very good point, however, i feel that it should be said,
+that while we, as in Mageia are very welcome to new packagers and make
+the process as easy as possible, there still seems to be a large
+number of posts asking about how to become one, rather than, &quot;i want
+to become one, can I have a mentor please&quot;
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think that he is &quot;expecting others to do it&quot; for him.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As Robert Fox said:
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;All I am asking is that Mageia recognise the need for the end
+</I>&gt;<i> users to co-exist with their Mac / Winblows counterparts, and that
+</I>&gt;<i> certain software is unavoidable. &#160;Any efforts made to help get such
+</I>&gt;<i> software to work properly with our distribution would be considered
+</I>&gt;<i> positive.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, if I understood him right, a how-to would be enough for him.
+</I>&gt;<i> Three possible solutions came to my mind, to solve this issue:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. We write a documentation for, which has to be translated in each
+</I>&gt;<i> language.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. We provide a get-teamviewer package (as for skype). I guess there would
+</I>&gt;<i> be a script in it, that does the needed steps? However, a packager would be
+</I>&gt;<i> needed for it, who build and maintain it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. We take care, that the provided Mandriva package on the Teamviewer
+</I>&gt;<i> website works properly in Mageia. Due to my limited knowledge I can't
+</I>&gt;<i> estimate the effort for that possible solution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I would say that number 1 here makes the most sense, provided that
+there aren't changes every 3 months in the teamviewer dependencies,
+which seems unlikely.
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+For number 3, I would say using the Fedora rpm would be better
+practice, as more software like Teamviewer will have rpms for Fedora
+than Mandriva.
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