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November 2011, 15:10:01 schrieb Florian Hubold: +><i> Am 28.11.2011 14:55, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: +</I>><i> > I'm more and more concerned about this whole attitude: "you guys should +</I>><i> > make my own life easier, because other already do it". That's just +</I>><i> > plain consumerism. +</I>><i> Uhmm, converse argument would that you want to make your life +</I>><i> (and also that of other distribution users) harder because you don't +</I>><i> want to be that consumer-like? Doesn't sound that reasonable to me, +</I>><i> and please remember, it's not always plain black vs. white decisions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can live without a get-teamviewer package, but just because of the facts +</I>><i> that i'm able to install/troubleshoot it without help, because i know +</I>><i> the tools to do this (rpm/urpmi) and doing that for a long time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In the end the question should be: Do we want to make the distribution +</I>><i> just for ourselves, just for the sake of having "our own" linux distro, +</I>><i> or do we want also some other people to use it, who aren't IT +</I>><i> specialists, programmers or rocket scientists? +</I> +I don't agree. I do think our main goal should be to provide a good linux +distro with as few proprietary packages as possible. + +Ok, if it is about drivers, there's not a real choice, so I do advocate +providing the nvidia/amd drivers for the graphics cards, the partly +proprietary drivers for some network cards (especially wlan). +This is a question of usability of the distro. + +But I don't like us providing more and more nonfree applications. +It really is not that difficult to install things like flash, skype, teamviewer +and so on. +In my eyes it would be the far better solution to provide documentation on how +to install them then provide a lot of those "get-foo" packages. + +Although "easy usability" is a good thing, people should remember they are +working on the most complex machine they do have in their homes. +While nobody expects to be able to use a modern video recorder without reading +the manual first, everybody expects to be able to use a far more complex +machine like a computer without reading anyting? + +I don't like to support that view, so why not tell people: +"We are an OpenSource project and our goal is to support OpenSource software. +Now it is possible to install your precious applications, just look at this +wiki page and you will be able to do it without a problem, but be aware, that +is proprietary software and it would be better to find OpenSource +alternatives." + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009898.html">[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . . +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009904.html">[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . . +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9900">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9900">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9900">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9900">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |