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+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+ <I>Sat Nov 26 15:47:48 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>26.11.2011 16:15, Anssi Hannula skrev:
+&gt;<i> On 26.11.2011 09:54, zezinho wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 26 novembre 2011 02:31:43, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> About 75% of the crash issues fixed by the above 0.7 commits affect mga1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 0.6.x, with a sample size of 70 commits.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So maybe we should consider ffmpeg as Firefox : a software we must upgrade
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because upstream fixes security only in latest version.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately FFmpeg is much less 'stable' than firefox in both its
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies and API across different series. Meaning that upgrade of
+</I>&gt;<i> FFmpeg often requires upgrade of libx264 (like in 0.6-&gt;0.7), or requires
+</I>&gt;<i> changes in software that uses FFmpeg (0.6-&gt;0.7 doesn't, however).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The &quot;easy&quot; way out in this case could be upgrading FFmpeg 0.6-&gt;0.7 and
+</I>&gt;<i> x264 and doing extensive Q&amp;A to avoid breakage. The &quot;hard&quot; way is
+</I>&gt;<i> backporting the ~200 relevant patches (most of which don't apply
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+And you dont think upgrading to a new ffmpeg will bring new bugs and
+need for new fixes...
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+We dont even have BR about those bugs in our bugzilla, so apparently
+they are not that important or not easy to hit.
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+The real easy way is: just apply the 5 security fixes and be done with it.
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+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Updates_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Updates_policy</A>
+&quot;For the most part, an update should consist of a patched build of the
+same version of the package released with the distribution&quot;
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+If we start the &quot;look at upstream, there are X number of fixes not in
+our package&quot;, where does it end ??
+
+We will soon have to do it for every package, and that is Cauldron or a
+rolling release, not really a stable release.
+
+And we dont have the manpower in QA to start a updating frenzy like this.
+
+The point is simple: software _always_ have bugs. Thats a fact.
+
+upgrading from one version to another does not only &quot;fix bugs&quot;,
+it's also &quot;replacing old bugs&quot; with &quot;new ones&quot;
+
+--
+Thomas
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