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+ <B>Balcaen John</B>
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+ <I>Tue Nov 22 04:38:18 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 22 novembre 2011 00:11:49, Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 11/21/2011 09:41 PM, John Balcaen wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I did not say anything else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I personally don't use the rhplugin or the mdv before but always
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; switch to keyfile.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please understand that I have *never* modified any Mageia-installed NM
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration file. I don't know what you mean by the mdv/rh/keyfile
+</I>&gt;<i> reference. I've been through enough of this to understand that there's
+</I>&gt;<i> an NM config file that specifies a shell script file that comes in an
+</I>&gt;<i> *rh* (RedHat) and an *mdv* versions. I have no idea what &quot;keyfile&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> refers to.in this context.
+</I>Ok so in fact you did not follow my suggestion here
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c1">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c1</A> ?
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+[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Umm, no, I never had to write that anywhere for the simple reason that I
+</I>&gt;<i> *didn't* choose to use NM. Mageia chose to use it for me, because GNOME
+</I>&gt;<i> 3 required it. I didn't do one blessed thing to encourage the use of
+</I>&gt;<i> NM in any way.
+</I>I never wrote that you choose nm simply that you get affected by the &#171; non
+support &#187; of ifcfg-mdv initially.
+After seems like you also hit a bug in drakx-net which switch to nm per
+default (&amp; fixed since today by blino)
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+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I agree but realize that if I have to use this to begin with, there's an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; NM bug that is potentially severe enough to prevent distro deployment.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I do understand&amp; that's why i suggested you to use the keyfile plugin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in #865 instead of the &#171; ifcfg-mdv plugin not maintained anymore in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 0.8.x &#187; or the rh plugin which also lacks some functionnality.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which, referring to the same bug report, I did and reported the
+</I>&gt;<i> results. If there was a lesson to be learned there, it didn't get
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed in whatever version of the plugin Mageia uses by default.
+</I>hum ?
+The only comment here was that :
+1) ifcfg-mdv plugin was broken (&amp; now in fact dead in mageia 2+)
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+2) try ifcfg-rh to see if it's also affected (
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c6">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c6</A> )
+you did not try arguing that the maintainer should report it upstream.
+ ( <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c8">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c8</A> ) which is quite difficult if
+the maintainer (well in this case there is no maintainer so it's even more
+difficult) is not able to reproduce simply because for example he does not have
+the same wifi card. That's why i suggest you to report it upstream since you
+should be able to answer questions from upstream if needed.
+
+3) keyfile is not affected by the hostname bug in #865
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+However when i suggested to switch to keyfile (on irc indeed not on mageia
+mailing list) instead of the ifcfg-rh plugin or (any others non native
+plugins) i was told that we need to support ifcfg (which is right indeed)
+
+So in summary we have a working plugin (keyfile) but we're not able to use it
+because we need to support ifcfg- files so we're stick with the redhat plugin
+for now until we found someone able to fix the missing functionnalities in this
+plugin.
+
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+--
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-ID: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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