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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>eatdirt a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 18/11/11 15:34, John Balcaen wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I tried to remove it the hard way, rpm -e --nodep, and all my gtk
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> windows
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work good. So, are you sure about this? Maybe if not found, there is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> default behaviour.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Probably because you already switch from oxygen-gtk to another style.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So gtk apps are already using the theme you did choose.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You should reinstall it, switch back to oxygen-gtk&amp; then remove it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> again to see if it's really pretty without it by default ;o)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, I have just tested what you said on a basesystem-minimal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) install libgtk+2.0-devel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) try the most basic gtk windows from &quot;gtk-demo&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is full of oxygen-gtk as expected, but without font :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, it looks like a Requires basic fonts is missing (gnu-free-* do the
+</I>&gt;<i> jobs).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) rpm -e --nodeps oxygen-gtk
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (and rpm -e liboxygen-gtk)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> try again gtk-demo, it works perfectly fine with simple widgets, which
+</I>&gt;<i> by the way are very fast.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> SO, I am reiterating my statement that oxygen-gtk should *not* be a
+</I>&gt;<i> Requires :) Why not simply do a Suggests?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am concerned about this because already on my 4 years old machine,
+</I>&gt;<i> the oxygen-gtk menu are slightly slower than the basic gtk. So I am
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty sure people with old machines won't be happy to have nice
+</I>&gt;<i> rounded blue slow menus.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Chris.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I agree totally. I always install a simpler and faster style myself,
+since I like a simpler appearance, and appreciate the speed as well.
+And as you suggest, we mustn't forget that many (if not most) users (and
+potential users) don't have the latest and greatest with 4 or more cores
+and 8M of memory
+
+Regards
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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