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+ <B>Michael scherer</B>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:39:29AM +0100, Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 15.11.2011 07:29, schrieb Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le lundi 14 novembre 2011 &#224; 22:09 -0800, Robert M. Riches Jr. a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (New list subscriber...needed to fix registered email address to post...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I was asked to submit this suggestion to the mailing list:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As a Mageia user, I believe msec was much better off with_OUT_
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; sectool. In its present state, sectool is BADLY broken. It
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; whines for pages about file permissions that are exactly as they
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; should be.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Can you be more specific ?
+</I>&gt;<i> It think he means this: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2808">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2808</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> or <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2255#c21">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2255#c21</A> or
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2255#c22">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2255#c22</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've also become supportive of this, sectool is basically duplicating
+</I>&gt;<i> partly msec functionality, there was no adaption for Mageia, currently it's
+</I>&gt;<i> checking on Mageia with the upstream Fedora configuration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Honestly this should have been done when importing it, as
+</I>&gt;<i> tmb already mentioned. msec should be patched to not require it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When we can't even get our default security tool to work properly,
+</I>&gt;<i> what's the point in adding a second one which needs even more
+</I>&gt;<i> maintenance?
+</I>
+As you say, the question is again &quot;why was it uploaded in the first place&quot;.
+It seems some packages were uploaded, and there seemed to have not enough
+tests. While that's hard or impossible to avoid totally, that's not really
+the way to achieve a good distribution :/
+
+I neither use msec or sectool, so I personnaly do not care that much.
+Afaik, sectool was created by a ex mandriva/mandrake guy ( vincent danen ),
+because he was ( rightfully ) wanting to rewrite msec, who is/was
+a mess of bash + python + perl code ( and rather ugly code, afaik, last time
+I took a look ), but if msec is supported, and sectool is not, then I guess
+we could drop. However, I still think we should first attempt to collaborate
+and fix it. ( ie, always have the reflex of &quot;try to fix and collaborate&quot; ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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