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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] qemu new upstream release (1.0-rc1) and should we move from qemu-kvm to qemu?</H1>
+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] qemu new upstream release (1.0-rc1) and should we move from qemu-kvm to qemu?">n54 at gmx.com
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+ <I>Wed Nov 16 04:32:12 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 14.11.2011 14:53, Buchan Milne wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( and given the discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on ml, it should be soon )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When I ask the developers, they don't know if qemu will include the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> patch at all and when (now or after one year) and they suggested to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the openSUSE way (today the most recommended and full featured Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distro for GNS3).
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK. So if gns3 can't be fixed for the stable - than should be removed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from the repos (for ISOs is to late).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If we don't provide qemu patch, then gns3 should be removed from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I believe removing GNS3 is better than keeping it broken and.. irritate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people (I don't count the opinion of our quality). Later some 3rd party
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repos can provide GNS3 and its dependencies.
+</I>&gt;<i> You seem to imply that the only use of GNS3 is with this qemu patch.
+</I>It's possible to simulate and play without qemu. (btw newer alpha
+release version supports in the same way VirtualBox)
+
+It should be &quot;Suggested&quot; by GNS3, but then what is the idea of
+suggesting qemu that isn't working at all? I simply don't know why to
+distribute a program that provides support in GUI for something that's
+not working.
+
+People can try to waste their time and configure qemuwrapper with our
+qemu... it's just a matter of time for a bugrequest on our bugzilla.
+
+In my opinion if we provide an application with so exposed (visible)
+support for working with qemu and we don't provide qemu itself then our
+quality of packages get lower.
+&gt;<i> But I used GNS3 with just dynamips, and this issue of GNS3 not being
+</I>&gt;<i> usable at
+</I>&gt;<i> all due to missing dynamips can really be solved quite quickly just by
+</I>&gt;<i> shipping dynamips to updates.
+</I>Yes.
+&gt;<i> But, it looks like someone blindly imported gns3 and dynagen from
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> without even understanding the use of these tools:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ rpm -q --suggests dynagen
+</I>&gt;<i> dynamips&gt;= 0.2.8
+</I>&gt;<i> xterm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (dynamips isn't explicitly required to be installed on the host with
+</I>&gt;<i> gns3 or
+</I>&gt;<i> dynagen, as the hypervisor can be run on a different host than
+</I>&gt;<i> dynagen/GNS3).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>In theory yes.
+&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
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