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Solbu wrote: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> In other words, you would prefer to have non-free drivers to remain in +</I>>>>><i> the +</I>>>>><i> "core" tree because otherwise some hardware may not work? (Did i +</I>>>>><i> understand +</I>>>>><i> you correctly?) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If we're going to have core and non-free to begin with, then non-free +</I>>>><i> stuff +</I>>>><i> shouldn't be in core.  That being said, it isn't the problem here.  The +</I>>>><i> problem is that non-free isn't as available as core.  It should be, based +</I>>>><i> on +</I>>>><i> prompting the user during install.  Those who want a totally free system +</I>>>><i> that lacks non-free functionality just have to say no. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If it makes a philosophical difference, then have no default and require +</I>>>><i> the +</I>>>><i> user to explicitly answer yes or no, and get treated accordingly. +</I>>>><i>  Putting +</I>>>><i> non-free stuff in core is an attempted solution to the problem that +</I>>>><i> enabling +</I>>>><i> and using non-free in an installed core-only system is much more +</I>>>><i> complicated +</I>>>><i> than it ought to be.  By the time a user boots his installed system, +</I>>>><i> non-free stuff should already be there if he wants it there. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> By the time a user boots his installed system he either has the online +</I>>><i> repositories already set (after install from liveCD) or is just a +</I>>><i> mouse click away from setting them. When the online repos are set the +</I>>><i> non-free repo is available if the user wants to have it. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> What about if I don't have internet access ? +</I> +Then he should use the liveCD. As has been in Mandriva. + +><i> If it is just a matter of asking to user whether or not he wants to install +</I>><i> non free firmware, then just go! But if the user with no internet access is +</I>><i> stuck because of firmware absence, then that's just stupid! +</I> +This has been the same in Mandriva times: + - an installation DVD as Free Edition without non-free stuff + - installable LiveCDs including non-free drivers. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009480.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of non-free firmware from core section +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009481.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of non-free firmware from core section +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9477">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9477">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9477">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9477">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |