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We have the proper +</I>><i> >> version of cronie ( I hope ), so what prevent us ? +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> > msec already sends everything also to /var/log, which was disregarded +</I>><i> > in last discussion because normal users don't look there and it +</I>><i> > slowly adds up on diskspace. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Normal users also do not read local mailboxes and the mailboxes slowly +</I>><i> add up on diskspace. +</I> +And log files can be rotated, unlike mailboxes. Maybe the log are not +rotated on the other hand, so that's a bug that could/should be fixed, +if that's the case. + +What we could do is either : +- install nothing by default +- install postfix/dma/whatever by a drakwizard if/when user give a email +for msec alert. + +Maybe another solution would be to make msec smarter and not spew 100 +lines per hours. I am all for msec but as I say often, this look like a +Homer Simpson invention. + +WDYT ? +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009450.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] prefer dma rather than postfix in prefer.vendor.list for msec mga1 -> mga2 upgrade +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009461.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] prefer dma rather than postfix in prefer.vendor.list for msec mga1 -> mga2 upgrade +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9452">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9452">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9452">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9452">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |